This is based on what it should behave, which Gaijin probably had modelled, although you are right about being skeptical about it.
You are missing the fact that helicopters are usually not moving that much from their positions, other than strafing from side-to-side if they know they are being fired upon.
This is 100% true, but I am talking about competitive SRB, in which most teams do not run any of these vehicles other than the Abrams and Type 10 (possibly the Leclerc after its reload had been buffed).
Yes, you are not suppose to play these types of tanks in a CQC situation (other than those with particularly low penetration, like the Lvkv).
However, most cases in SRB, not going CQC is not an option, especially in city maps like Sweden.
This is true, and this is why I did not state the Abrams as an issue that the Lvkv would have.
Yes, like you said. But I am talking about it in an SRB aspect, where you cannot always guarantee a successful flank, especially with the enemy having good communication.
Yes, that too, and it’s why I don’t disagree with you when you said that the Lvkv is more survivable.
Except in SRB, it does face Russian vehicles often, like I stated at the start:
I agree that the M3A3 is indeed worse than vehicles like the dardo, and other IFVs at that BR.
What? The PUMA is a fantastic platform, and it has an unmanned turret it can actually take advantage of.
It’s also faster than both the 2S38 or Bradley, and the CV90s, too. And very survivable. At least far more than a 2S38.
The Bradley is WAY worse than a PUMA. Maybe if the TOW-2Bs weren’t gimped (in the same way BILL isn’t) and the launchers weren’t stupid, it’d be a match.
What ? do we play the same game ?
have you actually played it in any form ?
“unmanned turret & advantage” ???
You kidding right ?
if this thing would not be the mess it could deserve 10.0
but right now its a straight up repair simulator and single shot 30mm after the first hit in the turret
or someone hitting your barrel for 2 sec with cal 50…
but sure everything is a fantastic platform if you never have used it
bmp2 is better then both the bradley and puma
And yes i mean the BMP2 not the bmp2m
Your K/D in the BMP-2 is 1 kill per death (combined with air kills, btw), your K/D in the PUMA is 1.3.
So - why has your in-game performance not matched your forum opinions?
Right I’m not gonna provide a take on whether the 2S38 should or should not go up. I’m gonna critique your conduct on the forum.
You keep feeling the need to pull stats out of your ass against everyone who disagrees. You’re disingenuous, and keep insulting people, even Necro, who was literally trying to understand what makes you think the 2S38 shouldn’t go up. The man is trying to understand your argument, and is trying to see it. Insulting the guy is literally doing the precise opposite of “convincing” him to agree or come and see your point of view.
This is partly why anyone who is convinced the 2S38 should go up just does not change their mind. Because you’ve used the whole works of insulting and derogatory language:
That’s all within the last 2 days.
Before you go cry bias, no, I am not justifying other people’s comments in this thread.
However, if you expect to convince other forum users to your point of view(s), insulting people left right and centre is not the way to go about it.
Proceeds to defend the 2S38 and claim it’s anywhere close to as good as HSTVL despite being as good as Strf 9040C currently, and objectively has 50mm more pen than Strf 9040C.
PUMAs are very easy to kill (in MBTs at least), have slightly better penetration than the Bradley (with the same firerate), a turretless crew and being slightly more survivable… at the cost of any ATGMs.
At its current state, I don’t see why it shouldn’t go down to 9.7.
I don’t think the 50mm of extra pen really do much.
I would sure take those spall liners, the far more survivable platform, the extra gun depression and the higher ROF, though… On the 9040. Hell - I’ve actually started grinding Sweden (no premium vehicles, just tech tree) just because of the Lvkv9040C. And that 2 extra crew with SPAA spawn costs.
And it’s been pretty easy so far.
Shame about the unstabilized T-54 at 8.0, when it should be 7.7, though.
And it’s a shame that the Centurion Mk.3 is 7.7 when it should be 7.3. (For both SWE and GB).
The Strv 105 also seems like it’s gonna suck. The rest all seem great, though. I gave up on the Russian tree even with the T-55AM-1 to speed up the progression, but Sweden’s a lot more palatable.
It starts to kick in hard when you get to rank VI, like, it take quite a while to research things if you not purely grinding. I’m currently working on the LVKV 9040 C rn I think, can’t remember though.
