rather easy to dismiss any thread when you just tell yourself that.
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Then show us actual evidence why 2S38 is OP.
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i did. FAR better pen than any other ifv at its own br along with better postpen due to caliber size combined with faster, better turret rotation, and better optics. And the pen isn’t even close, its like comparing vehicles 3-4 br steps apart in any other comparison. Literally the only stat that the 2s38 is infeior is gun depression, and against many of its contemporaries thats a difference of 2-3 degrees.
Thats not evidence, thats just your opinion.
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Statistical comparisons are opinion. Ok man, i don’t even know how to argue against that mental gymnastics.
The statistical comparison you seem to ignore, clearly shows it not beeing op.
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What people don’t realize is when using comparisons, it does not filter out BR for BR statistics. Most Russian players have the 2S38 in their 13.0BR lineup. The 2S38 performs well even in top tier.
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To be fair they were fooled into buying this thing.
It was marketed to b emore popular and if you didn’t notice its top tier unlike avre which ad people think will help level the tree.
What they don’t know it’s a bad tree bad vehicle and will only provide them suffering for their expense.
Buying top tier premiums is bad even more so when it sux
Tell me what top tier light tank Russian players should use otherwise.
I also see a lot of Wolfpacks in top tier, must be OP then.
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Still very weak pen compared to ammo like dm53. It has very weak pen statistically
The 1128 is not brought into top tier as much as the 2s38. 2s38 has twice the amount of spawns than the 1128. If these stats were filtered between 9.3 and 11.3, the 2s38 would have MUCH better stats. 2S38 should be at least 10.7, maybe 11.3
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Your claim has zero evidence and never will.
2S38 performs poorly at top BR, which is why the only time I see them, the player isn’t that guy.
SprutM is a better option, and MBTs are even better options.
11.3 2S38 also means HSTVL moves to 12.3 - 12.7.
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I crewed that thing recently lol that thing has worse gun depression than russian mbts, its a lot worse because its tall, and even if I manage to peek then its not possible to hide the driver, I can see why it’s got the M900 at 10.3 and the AGS still using the M833 at 11.7 (now 12.0)
It has Hydro pneumatic suspension
Gaijin can totally increase the price of the 2s38 if it goes up in br 🤔 which it should
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I literally did in my first post dude… it might not be op in its br, but still pretty damn good. Now at a full downtier, it’s absolutely op and there’s no disputing that. At the very least, it should be 10.7. I mean there’s not too many countries with 11.7 left so it’ll still have its nice comfortable easy gameplay and remain effective.
You didn’t show anything but opinions why it should go up and why it’s op.
I show you something why it isn’t op:
You know where thats from ?
You don’t own 2S38 at all and your claim is invalid like AlvisWisla said in his answer.
The claim is as invalid as it is valid.
We can’t really tell how many 2S38s are being brought up to top tier just for it to tank its average performance, other than through some personal experiences, unless someone starts recording games.
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11.0 2S38 would mean HSTVL moves to 12.0-12.3, which it already has. 2S38 is still 10.3, though.
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