@Perinvisus
Neither lock onto tanks, which is what they’re balanced on. If they were balanced on anti-air capability, Begleit would be 8.7 and 2S38 would be 9.7 at most.
Survivability is the same, both lack capabilities to improve survivability.
So yeah, that’s primarily the worse round.
There are also no auto cannon light tanks at 10.7 and 11.0.
@rainy2000
96A got copy-pasted incorrectly. You’ll need to edit your post as well.
2s38
Cons:
•big
•less vertical guidance
•52 less pen than rdf
Pros:
•advanced thermals
•smoke grenade
•ess
•lws
•.5 second reload
•aphe
•more ammo stowage
•can’t be penned frontally by .50
•self entrenching
RDF/LT
Pros:
•276 pen
•small
•gun depression
Cons:
•gen 1 thermals
•same speed as 2s38
•less ammo stowage
•no smoke
•no lws
•no ess
•can be .50 frontally
•slower fire rate
Please only post if you have something valuable to add or have a solid, well thought out counter argument.
Yeah I’m being objective and providing facts. You’re being subjective which has no place in a debate. You can’t just claim them as opinions because they’re not. You really think you can dispute facts? C’mon dude, do better
Doesn’t matter where it’s from, those are based on stats which are subjective and prone to skewed data due to being subject to players with varying levels of skill. Don’t bring a subjective argument to me telling me it’s important, because it’s not. I would highly urge you to actually read the whole thread because all of this was already discussed prior to you attempting to join the discussion.
And if you’re going to tell me they’re mine, you can save it. I already stated I’m average at best, on a good day. 😂
I play against russia in 12.0-13.0 BR ENOUGH as a US main to see both the amount of 1128s and 2s38s. I see at least 2 2s38s per battle.
2S38 is popular premium that can act as light spaa.
Right. It’s used way more often in top tier and still has decent stats. The 2s38 should really be an 11.3
All what you did is list your (barely average player) “facts” and call them evidence why it is supposedly so strong.
10.7 it can be, everything higher is delusional.
Just in this one 12.0 match:
One BMP-2M
One 2S25M
Five 2S38s 😅
Maybe it was exacerbated by the fact that I was in a helicopter, but it’s clear that it’s probably one of the most spammed light tanks at top tier because of how many people have it (and probably don’t have suitable SPAAs or other light tanks)
So do you have a fact based counter argument to support your opinions, or are you just going to keep telling me what you think?
By all means, if you have a solid counter argument I’d love to hear it. 🙂
And aren’t you gonna tell me where those stats are from? Or did I take your ammo away?
For real! Too bad it wasn’t on sale, I would have bought it
And then gotten a reality check.
Yes, written in probably 10 other threads like this one, im not a parrot.
They are yours, if it was so good and OP, surely you would be amazing in it.
The problem is everyone’s experience is different. That’s why subjective data is so useless. There have been people in here that say it’s awful at higher tiers and I believe that in their experience it might be true. I personally have seen this thing spammed consistently, and some of them by competent players who do exceptionally well. And some just die right off the bat. Subjective data means nothing and that’s the reason I try to avoid using arguments of that type. But I share the same experience as you sir.
What that it makes for a really useful light tank especially vs CAS and Helis? I’ve been downed more in both my a10 and heli by the 2s38 than any spaa when playing 10.3
So copy and paste it then. If you refuse to have a solid counter argument then why are you here? Just to try and rage bait me? That doesn’t work on me bud, idgaf.
I’ve heard this same argument rounding to about 5 times in this same post, and I’ve debunked it the same amount of times. I play the 2s38 as an aa which is what it realistically is. I don’t play it as the meta the game makes it out to be.
Once again that is subjective data, bearing no relevance to the actual inherent abilities of the vehicle itself.
Shall I continue or do you have some other “opinions” you’d like to add?
Go look for it yourself, im not going to search through months of topics lmao.
Of course you do. Not even a 1:1 in AA is of course much better.
Doesn’t get much more objective than your bad stats in it.
Yes, please continue.
You’re right for once, it is subjective. You’re gonna have to do better than that if you want to take a jab at me
Or you could post a link. Honestly I don’t believe you, and I’m not going on a wild goose chase wasting my time.
I’ve continued 😂
And i am not wasting my time looking for it only for it beeing ignored by you. I don’t care if you believe me or not.
Overall stats of the vehicles, yours included, tells everybody what he needs to know.
Subjective stats that don’t hold value due to being skewed. Yeah those don’t matter, there’s a reason I ignore them.
I don’t believe you btw
