Armor fragments.
There are only two MBT types without armor after their fuel storage: Leclerc & T-series.
Whether that’s accurate or not IDK.
At the end of the day we’re all playing the same game, hoping to learn how to deal with threats.
2S38 as this topic is primarily about is a no-armored threat that’s massive in size.
People are mad cause of how many there are rather than how good the raw vehicle is.
I ain’t saying it can’t be 10.3 with an ammo rack fix.
I ain’t saying it’s bad.
I, will do comparative analysis & share my views because it keeps my skill honed.
2S38 is a good IFV that has its place, and some people do well in it in the same way they do well in Ariete or any other vehicle.
As for your video, I’m curious if ammunition performance changed against fuel or if fuel is empty on protection analysis.
I’m leaning toward fuel tanks are empty, cause I’ve had T-72s eat 3BM60-like rounds in-matches, yet in protection analysis it goes straight through.
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Against downtiers or when not facing 125Mm guns that argument becomes true.
İssue is just because you and i bounced high penetration capable rounds doesnt mean we can constantly do it which means its more likely to RNG rather then having actual armor.
Can lolpen turret armor alongside with hull armor, which is more then enough.
Since when does stating facts and arguing about something became a complaint?
İ knew what i was going to face when i decided to buy M1 KVT so i already made peace with it, but telling me im complaining just because i stated the facts is simply untrue my friend.
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I’ve honestly given up trying to say that…
the 2s38 is very equivalent to the HSTVL and I think it’s even better as it plays the role of AA too…
however it is an absolute money farm for the gaijin (which is important) but they could make money without breaking the game, right?
And in addition to not decreasing his BR, they increased the BRs of all the taks below, that is, now the 2s38 falls against things as a TAM and other 8.7 that became 9.0
Honestly, it’s getting difficult to compete against Russia with this extremely modern vehicle and out of the current era of the game
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To get back on topic, 2S38 is probably that much better than Strf 9040C it should be two BR steps higher than it.
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2s38 is too ultimative
APFSDS round
And radio shells(never entered service though)
if 2s38 should be left on its br, it mustn`t have one of this rounds
medium high tier(10.0), especially helicopters, are dead because of this vehicle and its shells
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Whole vehicle its self didnt even entered to service.
All things we see so far based on Russian’s claims and assumptions.
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No. Doesn’t have the characteristics of HSTV-L, it doesn’t have the protection of PUMA.
I think KF41 is the highest BR IFV, if they fixed that thing’s protection there’s that as well but I think its over-BR’d by 0.3.
2S38 is a pure cannon.
@MyLittleVasya Proxy rounds are at 8.7, 2S38 is not 10.0 because of its anti-air performance, it’s 10.0 because of its APFSDS round.
Similar reason to why OTO is 11.3.
difference in balistics
2s38 can easily drop these shell of 3km
other either dont have target lock, or normal ballistics
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Dude, so can the 40mm bofors. I’m partially the reason VEAK went from 8.0 to 8.7.
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It’s quite true even for 125mm guns and 3MB42.
Type 16 bounced a shot because of it’s highly angled UFP, meanwhile M1’s turret bounced 3BM42 in multiple instances in a head-on engagement, turret cheek wasn’t in a weird position, round just failed to penetrate, simple as.
Only issue with this is that it can’t.
complain - express dissatisfaction or annoyance about something.
You are clearly doing that, but clearly took wrong arguments to support your cause.
Oh no, my M1 can be lolpenned by a 11.0 round, just like my contemporaries.
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3 gen thermal on 10.0-10.3)
Autocannon vehicles are a fun niche, but they have little power over a match compared to an MBT or light tank.
Just as I wouldn’t main Strf 9040C, which now has a similar ammo pool to 2S38, I wouldn’t main 2S38.
Extremely similar tanks in the anti-tank role. About the same size & speed.
9040C has slightly more autocannon protection. 2S38 has a bit more pen.
People are too fixated on tanks that shouldn’t be rattling them.
With the minimum amount of awareness, headphones & entrance observation, MBT users should kill more IFVs than they die by.
@MyLittleVasya
Type 16, Wiesel 1A4, etc have gen 3 thermals at 9.3 & below.
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also they have capabilities like 2s38
İts not im already tired of explaining this, so if you cant understand it its your problem not mine.
İt can, deny as much as you want but this will not change the truth.
Again you’re just cherry picking.
İ just stated which tanks can lolpen Abrams while not complaining or claiming how bad M1 is in any form, you just trying to prove your point by simply ignoring.
“Oh look guys someone is stating the facts about M1 Abrams he must be complaining!!”
See how funny it is? This is you in my eyes tbh.
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Yes. HSTV-L is at 11.3, not 10.7 so those two BR steps would be more than enough to differentiate between performance levels of those two vehicles.
PUMA has a 30mm dart which has much worse performance than 2S38’s 57mm dart. It also doesn’t have access to HE-VT shells.
More than enough to not be at the same BR.
Extremely similar tanks in the AA role while one doesn’t even have optical tracking and has inferior HE-VT to go with it.
Strf 9040C is worse at each and every stat relevant to AA role, but you still claim they are similar. What a sad troll you are, aren’t you ?
EDIT: Anti-tank role it is, but still everything is the same, 2S38’s round is much more capable.
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I explained it to you as well, so if you can’t understand it it’s your problem not mine.
It can’t deny as much as you want but this will not change the truth.
You are, listing 11.0 tanks like it’s some kind of a miracle those can lolpen you.
In the company’s policy, it has happened many times that they release premium vehicles that are very unbalanced, even OP in various respects, with a bugged ammunition magazine, armor and whatever else can be done to make them sell great, after a while, when sales drop, you get promotions, more people buy Half the price of buying such a vehicle gets it nerfed to the limits of playability. And after some time, another broken premium vehicle appears at full price and sells very well :D And people either pay the full price at the very beginning and use the breakdown of such a vehicle to their advantage or throw their money away and are disappointed :D Never ending story for someone who has been here since 2k13
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HSTV-L has a vastly superior cannon. That’s a minimum of 0.3.
HSTV-L is the smallest higher BR light tank in WT, that’s 0.7. So we’re at 11.0 already.
It’s a light tank, it’s the fastest light tank, and its armor angles make penning its roof difficult for many players.
All reason why it’s 11.3.
It’s superior in every way to all IFVs in WT.
Which is why it’s 10.0 & not higher. Its armor & survivability is the only reason PUMA is at 10.0 & not lower.
2S38 isn’t 10.0 because of its anti-air performance, 2S38’s anti-air performance is closer to 9.3 due to no search radar.
2S38 is 10.0 because of its anti-tank performance, which is why I’m comparing it to the anti-tank Strf 9040C instead for BR comparison.
Lvkv 9040C is clearly superior in the anti-air role due to its search radar.
Also accusing every WT player you come across of being trolls is itself trolling.
Especially when you fully agree with me on Strf 9040C’s anti-air capability.
@ApodyktycznyCham
No, they don’t release vehicles OP. They release unknown vehicles with an estimated BR, and sometime’s that’s too low, such as with PUMA being the worst example having gone up 2 BRs since dev server.
Same goes for you so this is pointless.
True, thats why your argument is pointless.
İ also listed bunch of 10.0-10.7 tanks that can do the same but because of your habit you simply ignored that part.
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