İ dont understand why you are constantly mentioning about 12.0 while there is zero tank that has 12.0 battle rating.
Both hull and turret armor cannot pen by any shell because of RELIKT protection, in order to pen it you have to aim weakspots which are far smaller then other top tier tanks.
Couple it with amazing mobility, a really good shell that has nuclear blast ability,constant 6.5 second reload, Gen3 thermals and absurd Side armor that can eat any shell it becomes obvious why it sits at 11.7 and pretty much surprass all other top tier tanks.
I’ve bounced 3BM42 loads of times, which is a pretty common round at that BR.
Also hull is pretty decent, with LFP being really good at soaking shots with all those fuel tanks.
Loads of vehicles you just mentioned are at 11.0 BR so you shouldn’t be seeing those en masse. Other thing to note, most of those things won’t have issues going through other 10.3 tanks, it’s not just M1’s thing.
And as I said previously the reason there’s no 12.0 tank yet is cause there is no 11.7 better than every other tank.
Turret only has ~30% Relikt coverage from the front. It only increases if the turret rotates away from the target. T-80BVM’s weakspots are at least as large as Abrams turret area in absolute volume.
I have its reload on Abrams, I have better mobility on Abrams & Leopard, and of course far better rounds on most top tanks.
BVM is a one-trick pony on defense: The UFP that’s useless in CQB maps cause I just hit their idler wheel or turret instead.
İts not even close to be 30 percent, when directly faces front turret armor is almost compeletly immune to any round, only roof armor is slightly exposed which will not be enough to one shot BVM.
Without Ace Crew (which you need to either spend tons of GE or have to play hundred games in order to get it) your reload time is practically same, not to mention every time you loose crew members your reload will become worse and worse unlike on BVM.
T80BVM is more much more mobile then any top tier Leopard or Abrams, this fact is simply untrue.
Which simply doesnt matter cause you cant penetrate UFP or Turret armor that has coverage by RELIKT.
I was driving M1 and my turret bounced 3BM42 multiple times. Also as I said, LFP is pretty strong since those fuel tanks can eat up a lot of damage, so M1 is far from being lolpen to that round.
Yes really. Not only those large fuel tanks will eat rounds, they don’t even require FPE to deal with the fire lmao.
You do realize that 10.3 vehicles will be more common than 11.0 ones if you are playing a 10.3 tank, right ?
As I said, 11.0 tanks won’t care much about armor of 10.3 tanks, it doesn’t matter if it’s M1 or T-80B, they will simply go through, so you comparing M1’s armor against that is pretty hilarious.
And i bounced 3BM46 with my Type-16’s hull armor, does that mean Type-16 has insane hull armor? Simply not. Again its either skill issue or rng didnt favor that guy.
Those fuel tanks doesnt eat anything, in fact many fragments goes through those tanks without any issue, my M1 will simply laughing to this comment considering how many times it died cause fuel tank didnt stop anything.
There is no simple evidence for this Logic.
Most tanks i mentioned sits at between 9.7-10.7, you’re just cherry picking right now.
Expert crew is already 6.4 seconds, ace is 6 flat. Just as I said.
@MyLittleVasya
They have to avoid Abrams fuel tanks, other than that that’s a statement against 2A5 standard.
Bushes stopped working on me in 2020, so have fun with that. I memorize armor layout based on gun position automatically.
Well certainly, you just shoot the Abrams sized turret ring, or the 2A4 sized cannon area.
@MyLittleVasya No fuel tank generates fragments.
Armor behind fuel tanks can if the round continues through, but 3BM60 doesn’t have the pen in a front shot to do that, and barely the pen on an idler shot.
I know barely the pen cause I accidentally fired too close to the front of the idler wheel on an Abrams once using L27A1 I think, which 3BM60 is close enough too.
speaking about abrams, usually we dont divide this parts.
and you confirmed, that armor after this fuels generated enough fragments sometime to kill 3/4 crewmates
Barrel is still clearly visible, so shooting anywhere in the close vicinity will disable the breech and might kill some crew.
It’s highly angled UFP can and will bounce shots, what’s the issue here ?
On the other hand, my turret wasn’t at an extreme angle and 3BM42 still failed to penetrate it multiple times, I doubt it’s a bug my friend.
M1’s protection isn’t the best for it’s BR, but it’s far from being lolpennable.
Meanwhile my M1 will laugh after eating yet another round just blacking out without any damage to the crew, just bursting into flames with a message: “You can’t extinguish this type of fire”.
3BM42 can’t lolpen M1, so most of those are already out of the picture.
10.7 tanks - 90A, ZTZ99s
11.0 tanks - Japanese ones, 80U/UM/UK, Merkavas
10.3 tanks - Chally and Vickers
I don’t know why are we even arguing about this, M1 is as easy to pen as other 10.3 tanks to those rounds, what’s even your complaint here ?
