the 2s28 is a much better cv9040c despite sitting at the same br
faster turret rotation huge autorack (28 for the cv90) more pen autotrack for planes
can point the gun higher up to kill planes ,can swim, is much more agile
oh and the 2s38 has commander thermals
has way more ammo types to choose from
the only thing the cv9040 has is being 50 call prof
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BMP3 has gen 2 or 3 thermals, high mobility, decent profile, 750 pen tandem ATGM, and an 81 pen high fire rate auto cannon, IMHO as ive said most of these lights are under BR’d, even the type 89, it has what 101 pen? and again good fire rate, atgms, good profiles etc.
I dont mean about hitting weak spots at all the dude fired one round at 1.5km and went clean through the hull of my challanger 2 with a 2s38
i use headphones and have played for nearly 5 years.
i dont personally die to the 2s38 much any more its usually the swedish ones that catch me now aday. but that doesnt stop me looking at it objectively and seeign these things absolutely destroy almost everything they come across. though i do as i keep chiming on about wish we could get a full balancing update so to speak
heck that may resolve the issue people seem to have with the 2s38 and what not
i personaly hate the bmp3 fire high explosive or have a long reload and only 4 missiles?
and the fact the 30mm counts has main gun making it impossible to aim the 100mm gun accurately while firing the 30mm if that could be fixed it would be amazing
change the keybinds around so the rocket fires off of a different key…
have that but it means long reload 26 seconds and only a hand full missiles
23 for me and its 12 or 8x 750 pen tandam ATGMs , providing you have flanked or used the bmp right at all, it absolutely can domiante entire lobbies. you can shred most 9.0s and 9.3s with the 82 pen round from the side, and if you have a tough tank, use the atgm,
You can say something this vague and nebulous and apply it to any vehicle
The BMP-3 isn’t that great
never made it to the tandem heat or the 82pen apds
and yea its 8 confused it with the bmp 1 and 2
So BMP-3 is Type 89.
HSTV-L is balanced at 11.0, have you ever even gotten mad at a HSTVL player for killing you?
HSTVL is balanced at 11.3.
Fastest unlockable tank in the game, best round for the auto-light class of vehicles, great optics, great gun traverse, small.
Ahahaha yeah the puma is pretty ass against anything thats not directly side on to it, no way that the puma and 2s38 are on the same br when the 2s38 has that goofy proxy shell as well and the puma only has that broken AHEAD shell that only pisses on planes slightly
Yeah, and with the additional features that the 2s38 has, like target tracking with proxy rounds, more trolly armour, faster fire rate and more ammo and also laser warning systems, its at least on par with the HSTVL. So i think the 2s38 should be moved up to 10.7 or 11.0 at least
2S38 cannot track ground vehicles, proxy fuse doesn’t do anything to ground vehicles, armor is slightly weaker than HSTVLs, fire rate blinds the operator.
It’s not on-par with HSTVL, that’s pure Russian propangada.
2S88 going to 11.0 means HSTVL to 12.0 and Strv 9040C to 11.0.
I’m saying that the 2s38 can engage more targets purely because it can attack air targets, and very effectively at that. I was unclear on what i said, that was my fault. in terms attacking ground targets the 2s38 is inferior to the HSTVL but not by much
Different types of targets does not increase its combat effectiveness as much as you think.
It’s still a light auto-cannon tank meant to take on ground targets hence why it’s 10.0 instead of its anti-air BR of like 9.7.
It’s the same reason why OTOMATIC is not its anti-air BR of like 10.3, its APFSDS round is holding it back from its anti-air role.
you know i was thinking highly of your responses until this one. it makes literally no sense at all.
he didnt respond either that the 2s38 can actually put down a higher volume/ mass of fire than the HSTVL per minute. and neglected to respond to any of the other things ive mentioned about majority of the issues with these light tanks.
they are all under BRd bar the HSTVL
Type 89: TOW-2s, great APDS, and gunner thermals on a fast chassis.
Okay? What does its anti-air capabilities have to do with its anti-tank BR?
Tanks don’t have structural health like aircraft thus mass downrange doesn’t mean anything to tanks.
As I stated previously: 2S38 and Strv 9040C can see 10.3, however any higher and all other light tanks need to be moved with them as that’s now a decompression event to save lower BR’d vehicles from some already niche vehicles.
im not talking about its anti air at all.
The 2s38 can fire down range more darts effectively than a hstvl thats the ammo weight for those ammo types.
allowing it to cause more damage, or kills at a higher sustained rate. its a more effective. the volume of fire on an high pen, velocity, APFSDS matters a lot considering a 2s38, or god forbid a bill , start slamming rounds off. they can take you out long before you even realise they are there.
The type 89 im also saying at 9.0 is under BRd , its missiles are worse than that of the bmp3.
and for the third point youve stated. youre completely ignoring what others and myself are actually saying in these responses.
the 2s38, and others such as the BMP2M , bill etc. are at their current BRs under BRd, they can and do dominate entire brackets, these vehicles arent niche at all in warthunders gameplay loop hence why there are so many of them constantly.
the other thing as well, no you dont need to move every other light tank around them up, not firstly, FIRSTLY you need to have the 2s38 , Bill etc, at the BRs they SHOULD be. thats what under BRd means.
Then you decompress upwards to try stop for example challanger mk3 with l26a1 shooting at leopard a1a5s…