16v16 is too much for air rb

sorry im an air-only player… i can only say that we should wait and look how this changes things… if its still too bad we can demand more changes later… but knowing gaijin it wont make a difference…

Here’s why that doesn’t matter.

I don’t WANT TO PLAY non 8v8-10v10 matches AT ALL. They aren’t even offering that, they’re offering the CHANCE you MIGHT get to play a TWELVE v TWELVE match which hardly helps. We need 8v8/10v10 and instead of a CHANCE we need a complete 100% toggle which one you want to play.

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Gaijin has been thinking long time about how to bring more pleasure to players

Hey let us make huge maps

Sure but I’m too lazy to change the ground targets and bases so let’s copy-paste them into 1 side of the map

Yeah, this will work, they will think is a new map.

Don’t forget to put more players to make it more enjoyable , start with 16 vs 16 in 2 years let’s make them 20 vs 20 this will work like a charm 5 min from the Airfield to battle to die from no where go to garage and press battle again.

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Yeah we don’t miss it but guess what you need to click on the option to play at smaller team not only that but knowing Gaijin you will still play the big maps any way because why not .

1 of the reason I stop play Air Realistic too big maps boring as hell going from airfield to battle and not to mention 5 min to go land 99% the game will end

2 too many players annoying as hell

3 Attackers and Bombers are useless pointless that they exist

4 Shattered is a joke

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Making it opt in means it’s DoA.

Maybe they shouldn’t have read Youtube comments to make a very impactful decision on the game either.

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The “small match” toggle is a joke. I ground out 220k RP for the Su-27SM today and didn’t see a single small match. As far as I can tell that toggle is a non-functional button and small matches don’t even exist.

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It should ensure you get a small match instead of being a chance like with night battles. Anyone who enables the 12v12 option has no interest in 16v16.

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How many times we suppose to complain about 16v16 and the12v12 gimmick which does not work and not what we asked for ? Was so hyped about this patch but all just ruined. It felt very well on DEV server with small teams where you can control people positions and not afraid to make a merge

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I’ve have gotten 12v12 couple times but didn’t even realise I did until the end of a match because it has no impact on the gameplay.

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That’s definitely a nice idea, I love it.

the issue is that smaller team size+the removal of multipathing+no stock ARH/SARHs+planes that don’t even have the option to bring ARHs seeing planes that can=the worst experience for non meta/stock jets.

Smaller teams is great…if you have a meta jet, fighting other meta jets and are fully spaded.

It’s a nightmare for everyone else. No one wants to tick the smaller team sized box while stock. If a larger team you have a chance to sneak in a kill, bomb a base or farm a few ground kills. If it’s 8v8 and one team has more spaded ARH slingers then the other it’s gonna be a steam roll everytime.

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I see no logic in what you’re saying at all.

I don’t know what to tell you.

Reducing team size in the current environment is a terrible idea. Snailsoft doesn’t really have a good track record with implementing new features and balance has always been a bit…well, you know.

If you want multipathing to stay as is, then lowering team size BEFORE introducing stock ARH/SARHs and decompressing the BRs is just not viable.

Again, see no logic.

Welp, I tried.

I laid it out twice and that’s all I can do.

In the meantime, imma keep my small vs slider off. I’ll also advise everyone else to do so as well, it’s just a bad idea in the current environment.

yeah, what is easier to sneak past 16 people or 8 to kill bots or bomb a base when you are stock. It is suffering in any case but to control 8 planes with your radar and plan how to get to the targets is much easier. maybe you will have even more chance with 1-2 player left to fight in enemy team by merging with them even stock, right now it is permanent snowball when your impact does not matter, either your team steamrolling either enemy and you can do nothing against 4-6 enemies at once

Yes, when you have 15 other team mates, losing 4 or 5 in the first volley will still leave enough people to keep the enemies attention.

When you lose a few, the enemy is going to pop a wager eventually and find you quickly.

Air RB and jets need a rework before players in match can be reduced for everyone.

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Idk what matches you are playing but usually I end up with 5-6 enemies even if I am doing 3-4 kills and there is 0 chance (or the enemy team vanishes). People will anyway die but personally i would better deal with less enemies.
Ofc rework would be the best, but seeing realistically the last updates in the game, i do not see it anywhere near. So the option to guarantee (not a chance of having) smaller matches can give a motivation to play for those who tired of 16v16 and will not take a lot of efforts from devs (you are not obliged to play this mode, i’ll be ready to wait for queue). Just as it is ARB is absolutely uninteresting for me, and I suppose I am not alone.

If your getting 3-4 kills in a stock jet then you are a far better pilot then me.

My stock experience is maybe I can sneak one kill while trying to be a rat.