Wouldn’t be a War Thunder forum thread without Alvis’ bad takes
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Wouldn’t be a War Thunder forum topic without you opposing decompression.
“Decompression is a bad take.” is itself a trash take.
“Keeping F-16A the same BR or moving it up is a trash take.” is the alternate claim you are making, which is also a trash take.
@MagikWT
Thanks for confirming you’re anti-decompression.
To be fair to him, he’s right here. You guys are mixing compression/decompression and bad BR placement
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“Pushing Aircraft like the F-16A down creates compression. 11.3’s won’t do well against them, let alone 11.7’s facing entire teams of them.” -Me
Pushing an aircraft that is already strong down? Might not be the literal definition of compression but it still creates a bit of it. What is actually needed is a minimum 15.0 BR ceiling. Then everything naturally goes up. That is decompression
@AlvisWisla
I am against decompression?
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Then why are you claiming that was a trash take? Why were you attacking everyone that didn’t want F-16A to go down to 12.3? Why were you attacking the people pushing for decompression?
Why did you call decompression and NOT moving F-16A down bad takes just one post prior?
Your post claims that decompression and/or NOT moving F-16A down are bad takes. So are you going to retract your post or double down?
I can’t with you anymore. Goodbye.
Me opposing bad BR placement suggestion, and implying a push for decompression.
So yeah, why is decompression and/or opposing bad BR suggestion for F-16 a bad take?
Or did you misread my posts?
@MagikWT
Bye, enjoy dismissing everyone that pushes for decompression in War Thunder.
Moving the F-16As down is compression and it should be avoided
No it isn’t, it’s bad BR placement.
Stop calling everything in the world compression.
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Does the Kfir C7 have a better sustained turn rate Alvis?
Does the Kfir C7 have Radar Alvis?
Does the Kfir C7 have better gun Alvis?
Does the Kfir C7 have a radar gun lead Alvis?
Does the Kfir C7 have as cold engines as the F-5E Alvis?
Classical Alvis take here.
Although the kfir has 2 more pythons, the F-5E has access 2x all aspect aim9p + 2 pythons also which isn’t much worse. All in all they should be the same BR at 11.7, the F-5E FCU is undertiered and the Kfir C7 overtiered.
Kurnass 2000 is an EJ kai with only 6x python 3 which is bad, python 3s are unreliable missiles that will be 1 flared even at rear aspect and short ranges by everything that isn’t an F-14. On top of my head the m2k is the best 12.3, probably followed by the bison and then the EJ kai itself
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Okay so at low tiers you have the situation where one extra machine gun would warrant one BR step but at high tiers you can have FGR 2 and F-16A be one step apart (If you bring it down). You are creating more compression in terms of capabilities along the BR scale.
Saying it’s “bad BR placement” and not “compression” is just stupid when two are interchangeable. We have compression because a lot of BRs are “badly placed”.
FGR2 is also overtiered, so that’s a bad choice for your point.
I prefer the term badly placed instead sorry
Btw that is not even the worst part. FGR2 can already see F-16As. Bigger problem is F-16As would be able to face 11.3s.
The 10.3s also have to face 11.3 and is as much of a problem. This is a matter of decompression and can’t be argued for not placing the F-16A or the others I mentioned into their propper BR considering the actual state of compression
Right. But for decompression to happen F-16A will have to go up and not down that’s for sure.
Yes, irrelevant as neither have radar missiles, “yes”, not relevant, not relevant.
Kfir C2 is balanced at 11.7, which makes the C7 balanced at 12.0.
“Only” 6 Python 3s, and 290 countermeasures. Python 3s and AIM-9Ls are among the most reliable IR missiles in the game.
FGR2 is under-BR’d not over-BR’d. The fact you think FGR2 and F-4J are over-BR’d is hilarious.
Your post’s line of thinking implies F-14A should be 12.0.
@themadseventeen
Stop trying to redefine words, you are not the arbiter of definitions.
Prove that 13.7s are going down to 13.3 with the F-16A, and 14.0 is going to 13.7.
You don’t need to make up fiction to oppose bad ideas.
For example, the F8u2 which is an excellent, and rather undertiered 10.3 has nothing on the J7E.