Why does the T90M Arena get its trophy system but the ZTZ99A still doesnt?
Russia just got the T90M Arena with its full Arena system, but Chinas actual main battle tank, the ZTZ99A at 12.3, still has nothing. The VT4 has the GL6, yeah, but its way too lightly armored for 12.7 so it doesnt really count.
The ZTZ99A has good ERA, ESS, laser warning, solid rounds like the DTC10, but no hard kill APS at all. It doesnt make sense that Russia gets a whole Arena variant while China gets left out. When they drop the new Leopard with Trophy, they should give us the ZTZ99A with its GL6 at the same time.
China is the third nation to get a top tier research tree tank with active protection system, behind only of Great Britain (Challenger 2 Black Knight) and Israel (Merkava Mk.4M). GL-6 APS is the same on the ZTZ99A as is in the VT-4A1 in-game.
I know, other nations are getting aps soon hopefully by next update since we have confirmation of I believe the leopards next model the A8 variant with aps is coming next update the ztz99a should get its own aps as well. The Vt4 has the aps the ztz99a should have.
I don’t believe 2a8 will come next update or soon at all. It would be a insane power creep for Germany again like what happened with 2a5
2a7a1 imo is way more likely and would be a little worse then 2a7V in the armour department so it wouldn’t be super op
It makes sense, the T90M came out 2019-2020, its Arena variant came out in February 2025. The Leopard 2A8 came out with the Israeli made Trophy system in November of 2025. So both vehicles came out the same year. While the ZTZ99A went through upgrades to support the GL-6 APS from its native country China in September 19, 2024 which is a year earlier than the T90M Arena, and The Leopard 2a8. So the ZTZ99A with the GL-6 literally came out earlier than both. and from the games stand point it makes sense now. all major nations should get their aps MBTS, my specific complaint is the snail should have launched the ZTZ99A GL-6 alongside the Arena or at least release it soon.
Meh that’s never been a previous consideration at all lmao and what 2a8 uses is eurotrophy slightly different.
And you understand most of the reason theses tanks aren’t added is because balance like the 2a8 probably won’t come for awhile unless gajin is stupid because of a lack of other competitive tanks for other nations like Russia and China don’t really have something as good especially with its domestic ammo. The year a tank came out is irrelevant never been a consideration to be added
And when it comes to ground I disagree, at 12.7 the A7V, PSO, A6, as tanks are better and for SPAA the IRIS-T is a God Tier Counter to Anti Rads the only thing the IRIS struggles with are Helicopters with IRCM, but Chinas 12.7 is very weak. they only have 2 12.7s for tanks the VT4A1, and the M1A2T which are weaker than any Leopard with the only real benefit over a Leopard is the Abrams better gun depression but with armor as a huge CON as for SPAA the HQ11 is pretty good and is better for dealing with helicopters compared to the IRIS-T but gets wrecked by any anti rad. So to summarize if you as a german main are losing to china its not due to the lineup its due to a skill issue. You can make the argument china has a different playstyle but thats it lineup wise its weaker overall. If we talk Air then i can agree with that, the EuroFighter should be able to carry more anti rads to be viable to the new meta not 2 like LOL what were they thinking while both the j10c, and j-15t have 6-10 anti rads available to them and they reach mach 4 depending if they take the CM102s they get 6 and if they choose the LD10 they get 10 so plus the helicopters china has available to them are superior as well. But if your a ground main as a german with SPAA you should be able to counter china easily outside helicopters. And if we talk air to air Germany is better. the EuroFighter Destroys the j10c and especially the bus j15T is fights while having a much better radar.
So in Summary when it comes to ground realistic battles china strict ground is 7.5/10 while germany is at 9/10 if we take into account air as well then it changes to china is at 9/10 and germany is also at 9/10. But I do think germany should get addition HARMS instead of 2 and a better heli. but overall ground wise which is what im talking about germany has a better lineup.
So what? What this has to do with the original commentary and post. Nowhere in the original post there’s something about “We don’t see many VT-4A1, so add ZTZ99A with GL-6”. Neihter you and me have brought this because it’s off-topic. VT-4A1 exist, VT-4A1 has hard-kill active protection system, it’s undeniable.
My Post Acknowledged its existence . But using your logic, Russia had the t72B3A why did they give them the T90M Arena? if the T72B3A had the arena already. Which is dumb. China has only 2, 12.7 top tier tanks the M1A2T, and the VT-4A1. My post was a complaint on how it was dumb Russia received the T90M Arena Variant but couldn’t do the same with Chinas Actual mainland MBT the Type 99a which we know as the ZTZ99a. Both the APS and The version that has it are in the game they just need to model and add the GL-6 to the ZTZ99A.
I agree with that logic, using that logic that is not my “logic”—T-72B3A is a top tier vehicle, which is not the case, in that regard T-90M (Arena-M) is the only top tier for Soviet Union that has active protection system, same as in other nations in-game, if by using this ficticious logic you’re pulling out of somewhere then the ZTZ99A should’ve been priority since Soviet Union has five vehicles with hard-kill protection system.
Nowhere in my comment I denied that China should have the ZTZ99A with GL-6 active protection system. Posts usually replying to someone has quotes or direct responses followed by a arrow in the top right corner of the post, if you follow that to read the context of my comment you’ll know why I have replied to this thread in the first place.
My original post specifically asked why Russia received the T-90M Arena at 12.7 with its full Arena-M system, while China’s main battle tank, the ZTZ-99A at 12.3, still lacks its GL-6 hard-kill APS.
You stated that the T-72B3A is not a top tier vehicle. That is incorrect — it is a 12.3 top tier tank with the Arena-M APS. Russia therefore already had an APS-equipped vehicle at that BR, yet still received another one at 12.7.
Meanwhile, the VT-4A1 at 12.7 has significantly worse armor, a weaker round, and an inferior APS compared to the T-72B3A, with mobility as its only real advantage. There is no logical reason for this BR placement.
Your claim that my point was off-topic is false, as the subject of the post was precisely the lack of APS on the ZTZ-99A. After being corrected, you now state you never opposed giving it to China. This contradicts your initial reply and adds no substance to the discussion.
