exept that video was made when the shilka keep having the proximity fuze.
Might just be my experience then. Also, those videos are quite old, afaik Iglas were vastly changed, for the worse, since then.
Regardless, the Gepard 1A2 should be a BR step higher than the Shilka-M4.
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Doesnt matter. The video showed the IGLAs hitting targets even when fired deliberately at a bad angle and Stingers missing by miles even with ideal lead.
Even just firing a few Stingers off in test drive, most of the time, they miss
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The amount of times that caged seeker prevented me from launching a missile is in dozens.
The only thing that shows it is that it has better maneuvreravility at really short range, which doesnt make much of a change if you have a gun, and doesnt make up for all of the other short comming of the missile overal, as it keeps being caged, doesnt have proximity fuze and it keeps being worse at longer ranges.
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Stingers make me cry. I cant lock anything with a 92K until its so close it cant keep lock with needed lead.
And good luck locking a helicopter of the BR man its just horrendous
One of banes of most IR missiles.
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I basically stopped even bothering taking ATAS on the Lynx. It was a waste of time. Even fired at 3 or 4km. Against a target that should have been a laughably easy shot. They just straight up missed.
Its hilarious just how far they went to nerf Stingers so they wouldn’t be IRL performance
also they are really like to eat the ground agaisnt lower flying targets for the same reason
too far away for gun, too gaijined to IR lock.
Let alone orion drones, cant lock them with an IRST or IRCCM unless I’m sniffing its exhaust
thats is still the same for all ir only missiles, but it could be worse, the antelope cant literally do anything agaisnt any helicopter or drones, as it has like half of the all aspect range.
At which point, why is the Gepard higher then?
Its radar and gun as far as I am (correct me if im wrong) the same as the 8.3 Gepard with no stingers
So why is the Gepard with Stingers higher? If hte guns are what are OP about it, shoudlnt the Gepard at 8.3 also be higher?
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Being able to lob missiles above obstacles is often a pretty overlooked feature.
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well the gepard keeps being better overall even if you dont take into account the missieles, specially the search radar.
Also the missile keeps being better at medium and longer ranges, and it does have the K so it has proximity fuze.
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The Iglas are fucking garbage they have no proxy fuze at all and inaccurate which makes them completely useless.
The 35mm are infinitly better than the 23mm and the Leopard 1 chassis is much better than the Shilka too. Not to mention the awful radar it has.
No. It’s peers are the Type 93, Santal, Machbet and PGZ04 (also sucks because no proxy on the missile).
The Stormer AD should be 9.3 too but that doesn’t make the Shilka good.
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Calling that ideal lead is funny. I’m sorry but the Stingers missing was your fault. You shouldn’t lead AA missiles at all at that range.
Here’s a few videos of the Stinger without the proxy fuze hitting the heli directly every time if shot from a correct anlge:
Spoiler
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Machbet is much worse tho. No search radar + bad gun
My brother in christ i agree with the sentiment that stingers are nerfed, but why in the name of all that is sacred did you lead those missiles so darn much lol. At that ranged you should lead a third of that
I think it’s telling that everyone here has missed the actual overtiered hybrid SPAA in this bracket, the SIDAM 25 (Mistral).
It has no search RADAR of any kind, inconsistent optical tracking that’s easily spoofed by trees and clouds (even if they don’t render on your screen), similarly poor range on the main guns to the Shilka, a generally worse chassis, and it’s at a higher BR than almost all other hybrid SPAAs.
The only things it has going for it is a tiny belt of APDS that’s substantailly worse than 35mm APDS, something you’ll almost never use because the chassis is completely unsuitable for tank hunting, and marginally better missiles that still miss any incoming CAS smart enough to evade IR missiles. And a laser rangefinder, I guess.
The fact that it shares a BR with the Gepard 1A2 is laughable.
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The Mistral is a better missile than the Stinger.
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