In what universe does the gepard not have good mobility?
And yes the only difference between the Gepard and Gepard 1A2 is the missiles functionally for in game purposes. but what is the difference between the ZSU-23-4V and ZSU-23-4M4 beyond the missiles? and what is the difference between the SIDAM 25 and SIDAM 25 MISTRAL beyond the missiles?
All those vehicles get the same treatment, getting IR missiles ups the BR by 1.3/1.4
Now if you want to argue that is too big of a step up i am all here for it but the Gepard 1A2 is better then the ZSU-23-4M4 in most ways so it being a slightly higher BR is only natural.
still doesnt make them able to lob them over buildings, trees or to avoid hitting the ground agaisnt low flying aircraft, being caged is still a disadvantage, specially when it only really matters under 2km…
maybe i’ve missed something but i have not seen anyone argue for it to be 10.3
9.7 is fine, it should be one step up from the ZSU-23-4M4 because it is a slight step up from it.
It seems people keep fixating on the fact it has armour, guns, radar and “mobility” worthy of the 9.7 BR or higher, when in reality. All that is totally and completely irrelevant because that is all balanced at 8.3. The only thing that should be considered at 9.7 is the performance of the Stingers, which, imo, are useless 90% of the time, at least on the vehicles i’ve used them on. Even air launched ones such as ATAS from the Lynx. They just straight up miss a Su-25 barely turning at 4 or 5km away. Well within range
I’d say it was a bit too good times and this is coming from a guy that doesn’t like CAS.
Making Stingers on par or even better than 9M37M would push certain vehicles up to like 11.0 where they are going to be worse, relatively speaking, than they are at the moment.
People advocating for buffs don’t realize that would actually hurt them.
I don’t know and can’t confirm anything.
I was just going off of reports from other people. They say Stingers should have 22G load with optical tracking and much better range against helicopters.
Where they literally turn around and say “we dont believe these primary sources are true and so will be modeling the Stingers to be worse than IGLAs”
IGLAs are the best MANPADs in the game because Gaijin makes them so. This is a simple fact. I dont know what else there is to discuss. Shilka is fine at 9.3 probably should be 9.7 though and Stingers need a MASSIVE buff to get them anywhere near IRL levels of performance at which point, the stinger slingers might be worth taking as an actual choice and not a choice of convenience. (i.e might as well take the Gepard 1A2 over the Gepard 1 because they are the same in every respect except you have a few Stingers to fire off at targets and you might get lucky.)
But I personally havent bothered with even grinding the Stormer AD and just the actually usable Stormer HVM. I know the stingers would be useless vs anything other recon drones. I stopped even bothering to take ATAS on the G-Lynx because they couldnt hit a stalled B-52
What does this have to do about one lunatic claiming that the Gepard1a2 should be 10.3.
Honestly mate go play the shilkas then come back to this thread, I can guarantee you will change your tune. Just like anyone else who makes wild claims about russian vehicles without playing them.