Yugoslav Ground Tech Tree (Including Bosnia, Croatia, N. Macedonia, Serbia and Slovenia!)

yeah I have the entire french air tree and almost the whole gtound tree researched and I have not touched the Benelux line except for the first few planes. The leos will stay unresearched because they don’t belong in the TT

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I’m less disappointed with Benelux (still a quiet a bit) because they at least used some UK aircraft variants not present already, even then they missed a huge amount of opportunities in each branch.

Hungary was a travesty and a half. Not just for Italy, not just for Hungary but also for a V4 tree (which could’ve been partially fixed via Romania until gajin does it’s thing and locks Romania in Italy as well)

I can excuse using non domestic stuff if it’s not ingame already or needed to fill a gap but every subtree has been grossly misused and with every host tree that isn’t Sweden has been weakened in terms of room for new stuff, while also leaving all but 2 (maybe 3 if we assume a united korea tree isn’t squandered some time soon) potential full trees in an uncertain position or cut short.

I really hope that the tree folders get added at some point, so that both host and subtrees get thier chances to truly shine.

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The problem I have is for example when they added M44, they added it to everyone for no reason. as for Air Tech Trees I do not see as big problem with some gaps since it plays quite differently. As for Hungary, Italy just did not need them in Air. Thai Subtree is did not even see a T of Thailand. I do not see positive future with current subtrees, which is unfortunate since I believe South African one was done very well.

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South Africa was probably the best in terms of unique stuff (even the gripen c differed from Sweden’s in terms of armament).

The main issue was due to gajin’s 5 line policy, it heavily restricted and delayed several UK made light vehicles. That’s something more to chalk up to technical limitations rather than gajin in my opinion (which is partially being fixed by folders thankfully).

It was astonishing how none of domestic Hungarian aircraft/mods got added when the air tree came out, only soviet stuff and a gripen c at the end (which I’m unsure of it differs from the other 2).

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Exactly this. Well, ZA is the most unique sub-tree, it was both uneeded(as the UK has a domestic vehicle to replace basically everything, bar like two vehicles) and didn’t fit the UK tree(due to them having better options/closer nations, if Gajijn wanted a ST anyways).

So ZA only gets at most half a point, as it only gets one thing right, just like Finland(which gets half a point for a different reason). There isn’t a single sub-tree that can be called a success; they all are failures(two of them get 1 of two things right, then fail on the other).

If sub-trees wanted to be a success, they need to be added as pseudo-trees, and not like this, pseudo-integrated into the host tree that they are right now. Something like folders for trees.
aka this:

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What’s partially baffling aswell is the lack of tier 1 AA between the light AA MK1 and the Staghound AA (which gajin vehemently refuses to use any domestic or foreign additions, which sucks because the light AA MK1 is probably the worst AA in the game)

Barring the gripen and other spaags, the South Africa subtree really didn’t fill in many holes as you point out.

(Linked an example of what could’ve potentially have been placed before/folderd to act like the German AA cars in the German and Chinese trees).

In the light of new premium packs I would like to recommend to add these type of vehicles to Tech Tree:
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There is also an option for T 55 with literal bricks being added.

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Crazy how we are getting a Dutch aircraft for low tier before Hungary even gets a low tier

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I’m still astounded that FINLAND has more Dutch aircraft. I get Finland was a subtree for much longer but only 1 indigenous aircraft design for the Dutch!?

Also still shocked how gajin could’ve easily used Spain and Romania instead of Hungary, only to only partially use Hungarian ground vehicles and then proceed to do next to nothing with Spain or Romania, all while reducing the number of unique Italian aircraft can be added.

It’s so irritating to think about.

Not to mention whatever thier doing with Canada, Poland and Australia. At that point, just get all the nations split between trees and dump them into one tree called the "we don’t know where to put these, go nuts with them or something "tree.

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For the Yugo Multi premium pack M36, T34-85 or PT-76 as tanks and third spaa could be Praga with rubber or M8 BRKO since all these vehicles are in similar Brs

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M8 Brko does not suit the lineup since no rubber modification. But Praga goes along Very very nicely.

Decided to put brko as a choice since spaa are same or lower br then others in pack, Praga being 6,3 while others 5,7/5,3

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That’s actually not a regular Praga, but one that was rearmed with two twin-barreled GSh-23 23 mm autocannons taken from J-22 Orao attacker. I’ve seen this photo at least a dozen times, but never noticed it.

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Praga 23-2 slika 1

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HOLY MOLY, THOUGHT MAGAZINES WERE OFF. Really wanted this to be in main tech tree but alas. Wish there was a photo without rubber armour for main Tech Tree and rubber one for premium

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Great fucking eyes ,never noticed it , that would be sick addition for tech tree

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Perhaps a 5.7 rubber multi pack with T-34B (without HEAT-FS), M36 (with HEAT-FS) and BOV-3

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Maybe any of the new vehicles will be presented at the air base in Cerklje ob Krki on the 14th this month. If so, ill try to get some info and share it!

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That’s awesome! Could you please ask whether Spikes will be integrated into the Mangart 30 system, and if the Mangart 25 will be equipped with its own anti-aircraft missiles?

Also, while you’re there, would it be possible to take some photos of the Puch-G with the Strelets (9S846) missile system—assuming that’s even allowed? It’s an older weapon donated by Russia in 2010. Since then, it has only been seen during a single exercise in 2014 and at a few public open days at the Cerklje ob Krki Barracks, the most recent of which was in April last year. As a result, only a handful of photos of this vehicle exist online—mostly on the Slovenian Armed Forces’ official website or their Facebook page.

Strelets barely visible at the last years Cerklje ob Krki Barracks open day:

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You got it! I’ll see what i can do! Since both the Mangart 25 and Mangart 30 are so new, I couldnt find much info about the systems. I did have the fortune of seeing the Oshkosh Mangart 25 fire exercise in Poček.

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I never saw Missiles mentioned for Mangart 25 so I doubt