SARC Mk2 (20mm Breda)

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Introduction:
Prior to 1938 South Africa had no experience in manufacturing armoured cars, but when Germany declared war in 1939, the South African army realised they had a severe shortage of armoured cars, which lead to an experimental programme to locally design and manufacture armoured cars. The first South African Recognisance Car (SARC) entered production in the early 1940, known as the SARC Mk1. The SARC Mk1 was based on a 3-ton truck 4x2 chassis from Ford Motor Company of Canada and made use of a Ford V8 engine and drive trains from Marmon-Herrington. The armoured hull and turret were developed and manufactured locally in South Africa. Not to long after the SARC Mk1 entered production, the SARC Mk2 was developed. The Mk2 had a shorter wheelbase and a full 4x4 drive train. The positioning of the un-ditching channel had also been moved and the design of the front overhanging mudguards being changed. Depending on the variant of the SARC Mk2, the turret could be fitted with .303 Vickers MG, Bren LMG or a.55 Boys AT. However by 1941, it was found that the armament was no longer suitable, especially when facing enemy armour, this lead to some SARC Mk2’s being up-gunned, usually with captured weapons of which there was a sufficient number. For this forum post we will focus on the SARC Mk2’s equipped with an Italian 20mm Breda Mod.35 gun, these SARC Mk2’s would mostly see action in North Africa being used by the Commonwealth forces.

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Specifications:

Armament: one 20mm Breda Mod.35

Ammunition: HEFI-T, API-T, HVAP-T

Crew: 4 (driver, commander, gunner, loader)

Engine: Ford V8

Horsepower: 85hp

Transmission: Manual (4 forward, 1 reverse)

Drivetrain: 4x4

Top Speed: 80km/h

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Primary sources:

Marmon Herrington (A History of South African Reconnaissance Car) written by William Marshall (page 15-28)

Surviving the Ride written by William Marshal and Helmoed Heitman Romer (page 12)

Secondary Sources:

War Wheels (Marmon-Herrington Armoured Reconnaissance Car Mark 2) Data sheet: https://warwheels.net/images/MarmonHerringtonMk2statsheet.pdf

Tank Encyclopedia (Marmon-Herrington Mk.I/II): Marmon-Herrington Mk. II (1940)

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+1 Very nice

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Highly doubt it will get Pzgr.40 as a captured gun.

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War thunder has never strayed from giving vehicles ammunitions that they probably didnt use historically (i:e the swedish reserve light tanks)

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For Captured equipment they did. And some others.
(Chinese 222 also doesnt have Pzgr.40.)

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The Chinese 222 isn’t captured, its just an earlier version that didnt use pzgr.40.

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British squeezers?

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Thats why i wrote “and some others”.

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+1 for Wacky Races North Africa

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The point still stands that gajin has never made it a rule about ginving vehicles only their historical ammunition.

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My point also still stands, that its unlikely it will recive special ammo, as many other similar captured (AND OTHER VEHICLES) didnt get special ammo. (In game and IRL.)

Yeah but why would China have German 20mm APCR ammo anyway? :P

Because they bought the 222, but that doesnt matter anyway.

Name a captured vehicle in game that doesnt get special ammo. There for 1 arent many captured vehicles in game and what few there are have all their ammunition selection ( the german t-34 and sherman for example both get apcr). 90% of copy paste vehicles in the game have all their ammunition.

The german T 34 is rather old.
But shure:

T-V
Panther Dauphine
Heavy Tank No.6 (Japan Tiger)
Chinese M41A3
Tigris (Hungarian Tiger I E)
Sherman III/IV doesnt get T45
Russian M4A2

All dont get APCR

Its even douptfull how much or any Pzgr.40 the italians got for their Bredas.
Not to mention, in the open desert, the Pzgr.40 wouldnt be used anyway, because if not all encounters will be beyond the effective range and would require the use of the standart ApI-T.

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