YaK-9K: Remove it's APHE belt or move it up to 5.7 in GRB

it does not. YAK-3 flies better with 4.3 rating. YAK-9T flies better with 4.0 rating. That armanment is the only reason it sits at 5.0 at GRB

Yes it does. Have you never seen this thing fly?! Did you even bother to watch the video on the Reddit link that we were provided in this discussion?

i do not bother as i PLAY the three things myself. Telling that the same plane with heavier 45mm cannon flies BETTER than this plane with 37 cannon is ridiculous by itself. As i already said - the two SAME planes, YaK-9T and YaK-9K, which only difference is cannon, have different rating. EXACTLY because that cannon. And there is no reason for it to be even higher as even at 4.0 there are pretty many planes to outrun and outmaneuver the YaK - starting from BF109F which has chances and ending with Spitfiers. Its an ATTACKER and its good as attacker, so it has higher rating than the same plane with worse attacker gun.

Figures. Now I know why you’re so desperate to try to prove that this thing is 5.0

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Could say the same about you crying that its op, when in reality it is not. But won’t. As its a weakling argument with no practical force :/

I dont intend to argue with children whos only argument is “waaaagh you play it” and not a plane characteristics or statistics.

the entire cannon and modification of YaK-3T was experimental, lol. Thats like saying “dont give the T320 APFSDS to T95E2 as it was an experimental shot”.

NS-37 is heavier than NS-45

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If i remember correctly, it wasnt? They literally had to chop down the barrel walls just to make it fit

the NS-37 weighted the 140kg, and the NS-45 WITH chopped barrel was 155. What are you talking about?

Yes thats the reason why it’s somewhere 10-20 kg lighter than 37mm

NS-37 weights around 171 kg on Yak-9T variant

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I’m just saying that German MK 101/103s and BK 37 don’t get any APHE rounds, which were in supply and used in combat, while the Yak-9K gets APHE, which it probably never used during its operation.

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dont they? I dont remember the BK3.7 as i dont play Junkerses, but the MK103s certainly do have some APHEs? Ho229 does at least. And i dont remember the MK101 cannon at all.

Huh? Maybe they then count the mounting system in that mass. I mean it is certain that the cannon itself weights 140 as stated.

After 10 years they turned the 30mm IT round into 30mm SAPHEI, which you get a total of 1/3 or 1/4 of in the belts compared to a full 45mm APHE belt for the NS-45.

The designation of SAPHEI is wrong, as it should be APHEI-T, but there was an actual 30mm APHE-T.
Both were used to target various armored targets, like vehicles or trains.

It’s 165kg according to German data from 1944. (But they also list a RoF of 400 RPM)

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Well thats Gaijin for you. Same with AP and APDS belts for SPAAs. Their belt balance is something i cant get myself around too.

so info differs… huh. Still sounds stupid that keeping the same dimentions the 45 weights less. I dont get it

Maybe, just any source about the gun states it’s weights around 171 kg on Yak-9T variant.

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If they want to keep APHE on that belt,make it shoot way slower than that…

Are you willing to test that? Also, fighters with Erven 12.7s can pierce most light, and a decent bit of medium tanks from above.

Add on the 20mm planes and so on.

Also my A-1H can carry 24 250s or 500lbs… can’t remember. It also turns pretty good.

Dude, there’s no denying that the Yak-9K is an extremely deadly CAS plane, being able to kill any target, regardless how armored.

Sure you can strafe a bunch of light to medium armored vehicles with .50cals and 20mm cannons but you are restricted to just that.

When I take the Sea Hurricane at 3.0, I can get around 5 kills of light tanks, SPAA and TDs just with 20mm cannons but it also has the flight performance of a Ju 87.

With the Yak you can take out any ground target, including heavy tanks.
It’s practically a flying BT-7.
But you also have the performance of a fighter.

So that doesn’t add up when the Sea Hurricane flies like an attacker while the Yak-9K has the performance of a fighte but is at least equally deadly to ground targets, generally more so.

The ground target killing power of the Yak-9K is light years better than the Yak-9T, because one 45mm APHE can kill even a heavy tank in one shot.

At least now at 5.0 it’s fighter capabilities are a lot worse than they used to be.

Of course it would be much worse when it didn’t have that 1mm fuze delay that makes killing planes so much easier than when the round would just fly through the airframe most of the time.

Me 410 or Hs 129 have the killing power but not the flight performance to do anything against fighters and are also vulnerable to SPAA since they are so slow.
(They wouldn’t be so bad, if even 20mm HE can just one tap your wing, with anything bigger making it 100% likely. So not getting hit is worth much more than it used to be)

But just for you I’ll take out the Yak-9K and see how well I do with it.

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Me: asks “are you willing to test that”

If I’ve learned one thing from USA and Brit mains, this is confirmation bias no?

Idk, if I get 5 kills every game it’s not bias, it’s the plane.

But we have to wait and see.

But I’m sure that other players can show how they do in the Yak-9K as well.

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