Now the whole CAS is going to die. What’s next?
This applies to all aircraft though not selectively yak9. Try DCS and Spitfire’s weapons strafing this is literally area effect guns with recoil convergence and wing mounts that they have.
Instructor helps all planes.
The mig-27 is known for shaking itself loose when firing the gun, but sure lmao
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The yak-9k was horrendously inaccurate and there are several reasons for it :
- Huge recoil (on the order of 7 tonnes of force per shot)
- Airframe flexing when the weapon fired
- The engine mounting shifted between shots
- The airframe just wasn’t structually stiff enough to deal with the recoil forces from the gun firing.
Modern weapons have shorter, stiffer barrels. The yak-9k suffered from barrel whipping (this is a common thing with russian weapons, its the reason they had to weld a metal bar to the ka-52 as the barrel was damaing the fuselage and you can also see it when bmp’s fire their autocannon)
tldr - The weapon should be horrendously inaccurate and is vastly overperforming now.
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That’s hyperbole. During combat trials these 45mm weapons shot down numerous fockewulf 190. Average shots per kill was only 4
On motor cannon. U even sure about that?
(Assuming you’re not being facetious, I have a horrifc headache and can’t tell)
Yeah, that’s a common myth and not supported by historical evidence.
The more average was around 10 shots, with all shots fired after the first being… inaccurate.
““Aimed fire from 37-mm–45-mm guns was possible only with the first shot; the remaining shells flew past.” - История авиационного вооружени
Its a similar thing to when they tried to mount it on an IL-2, the recoil was way too much for the wings.
V. Perov, O. Rastrenin, “Il-2 versus Tanks,” Equipment and Armament. Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow 2001/7, pp. 1–10
There are several reasons it never went into serial production (handing problems with the aircraft, excessive recoil, poor manouverability and nose heaviness, severge nose-up pitch after firing)
It was a trial, and it didn’t really work, the yak-9t was a much better solution.
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Not sure what you’re trying to say here?
Do you think barrel whip doesn’t happen on aircraft or something?
I dunno the downed Germans would beg to differ as do destroyed locomotives and trains
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This is from Russian site about NS-45:
“According to the reports of the units where they underwent military testing, one hundred and forty-seven 20-mm shells from the ShVAK cannon, or thirty-one 37-mm shells from the NS-37 cannon, or ten 45-mm shells from the NS-45 cannon were expended for one downed enemy aircraft. But, on the other hand, it should be noted that fighters with 37mm and 45mm cannons operated primarily under the cover of fighters with 20mm cannons, including wingmen. Accurate fire from the 37mm and 45mm cannons was only achieved with the first shot; the remaining rounds missed. Accurate fire from the 37mm-45mm cannons was only achieved with the first shot; the remaining rounds missed. After a three-shot burst, even at maximum speed, the burst would drop sharply, the aircraft would become unstable, and oil and water leaks would occur in the lines.”
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Why do you think it never went into production?
If it was such a wonder weapon, why was it cancelled?
The reason is, the aircraft had significant issues which impacted its performance and accuracy. It was most certainly not the stable, accurate death machine as portrayed in war thunder. It should be corrected, as we want things to be as accurate as possible right?
It was a failure of a project, and the 9T was a much better solution.
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147 shvak
31 37mm
10 45mm
37 did everything that 45 did that’s why
Hence yak9ut
Yes and they hit 1st shot too which certain people have trouble wrapping their heads around
Well, they wanted even more firepower than the 37mm on the 9T but it just didn’t work and was utterly impractical. It was a follow up to the 9T and was just too much for the airframe, hence the cancelling.
Projects fail all the time, especially in wartime conditions.
I’m not opposed to the aircraft beiing in game, what I want is for it to be protrayed accurately which would include horrendous accuracy (this would have be for every shot sadly, I don’t think barrel whip etc. is modeleld) and crippled flight performance.
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You re constantly going full retar if left unchecked. I m opposed to going full retar
The theory of horrible accuracy doesn’t check out It was effective on aerial targets and much more than 20 or 37mm by statistics
In WT its not about 1st shot but rapid fire Yak can do without loosing accuracy.
That’s what instructor does to a game. Vut ut applies to all aircraft not only yak9
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Not really, its the recoil force which is not accurate in the game. NS-45 had 7 t recoil force on 2.5 t aircraft. 7 t force would move you of the target after first shot and instructor has nothing to do with that.
I think they have recoil force modelled. It’s just lower than you expect and instructor works as auto compensator.