YaK-9 should be moved up to 5.7 in GRB

Hmm no?

Both options will be annihilated if there is a single decent CAP player.

You do understand the game time is roughly x30 real speed? Think of the speed in which you fix parts on your vehicle?

If You don’t see the difference there is no point having a discussion with You.

It is good that gaijin started giving it higher B.R.

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It’s hard to see any points with you, you’re extremely disagreeable with anyone, since you have what? 30k matches. So you believe only you are the one whom has an idea of how to play vehicles.

You literally mentioned before, that despite any vehicle, you know how to play it immediately, perfectly…

Around 65.

Sorry but again try to stay on topic as all the things were already discussed here.

It is always better to be able to fight the air and Yak always have a chance. Not to mention that no other plane in game has the same capabilities around that B.R.

Gaijin gave it higher B.R. already, I hope it goes to around 5.3

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…and how many times is there a good CAP player in GRB, may I ask?

People will operate on arguments like this, get used to it.

You can have over 5 K/D in a thing and tell them it is unbalanced but they will defend it to their grave.

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Hear ye hear ye, the lord ULQ has spoken!

People play other games than WT, 65k matches means your either a bot or only play one game.

We’ve already had the bomb vs cannon discussion, and if you are as good as you claim, you should have absolutely no problem being able to use bombs to greater affect than your cannon.
(This is in relevant to effectiveness, if you couldn’t tell).

It feels suspicious it’s both your favorite vehicle, and you want it to go up in br. Almost like confirmation bias no?

How have I not been on topic? You took it off topic there guy. When you said “there’s no point in having a discussion”

If my point was that bombs are more effective that would be the case, but as I have said 45mm is far more capable and effective and there is no other air vehicle at the B.R. of Yak-9 that is as good as it is.

It is not my favorite vehicle, but as a normal person I have used it before I started talking about it in order to check how good it is and what it is capable of. I propose You should do the same as You will actually be able to understand the vehicle before discussing it.

I will just quote:

And in the end:

As it was already discussed about Yak-9 anti air capabilities in the topic. Just saying “but someone good in the air can deal with it” is not a point worth discussing as it can’t be checked in any way.

What we know is that copared to other vehicles that are used anti-ground, the Yak-9 is both good at destroying ground targets and air ones compared to other vehicles used for the same reason.

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It was your favorite the last time I checked your profile. Roughy when this thread started. Which is suspicious.

  1. I play on console, it is far harder to be far more accurate with a controller, and before you bring up M&K, that’s just a no. Being generally good at the game, when I test flew the Yak, TU-1, and SU-8 in the past, pretty much only light tanks were super susceptible to the 45mms. (These tanks would die to 20mm as well easily). Mediums could be killed, depending on range and angle. Heavies are generally a long shot.
    I think my favorite kill in my Tu-1 was skipping rounds off the ground beneath a Tiger H1 and blowing it up. (Took 3 rounds to kill his whole crew out of the 10 I fired).

  2. It wouldn’t give you good data if I, the person with less matches tested that for you with bombs. Because option A: my data grossly out weighs yours, then you could just say I faked it as I assume you would. Option B: since I clearly don’t fly as much as you, the data becomes skewed lower, as you don’t have the same constants. To have actual sufficient data, you need constants, but change the variables.

And how do You know what my favoutire vehicle is? By what I set on my profile?

K.

I play on PC and I’m able to eaisly destroy Tiger II H with 45mm gun.

So You need to trust what I say as I’m more experienced with 45mm and bombs that 45mm is just better.

Sorry but just because someone can’t use vehicle well, doesn’t mean that it is balanced.

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???

So you just confirmed, that i was right, thanks

You said you don’t fly the 9k.

I admit I mostly fly it SB, not RB.

However, you say CAP can anhiliate it same as a duck or stuka or similar.

I say no. The yak-9k is a pretty competent aircraft in a dogfight due to its very good roll rate and near-stall controls.

Anecdotal and with SB controls, so no instructor limit -

  1. Bf109G10 dives on my Yak-9K while I was looking ahead to scan for hostiles or maybe attack bombers
  2. It lands its shots, tearing off half my elevator and horizontal stabilizer. I am now flying a crippled yak-9k
  3. I initiate a break turn
  4. I begin rolling and pulling as much as I can and rapidly changing the direction of my roll until…
  5. and proceed with scuffed rolling scissors after I see him meet my “reversal criteria” (in other words: he’s in a position where he’ll overshoot and travel a longer path than I do)
  6. We make a few head-on exchanges trading positions
  7. I gain the controlling position and it turns into a rolling two circle fight with my sitting in lag behind the Bf109G14 and gaining angles.
  8. Bf109G14 gets third party’d as I start to prepare to shoot. I get third party’d by a zero thinking I’m an american aircraft carrier

The video is posted earlier in this thread. I am not linking it again lest I get flagged for spamming my channel.

Now.

The pilot I fought must suck, right?

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Might be a stat-padder. Might be having had a bad day, but they in theory have substantial experience and results to say they’re decent at their plane.

With this in context, are you confident a yak-9k is impotent and bad at defending itself in a dogfight?

I’m just an average pilot with, at the time… around 4-5 hours flying yak-3 and yak-9k put together in SB?
I’m nowhere experienced enough with the Yak-9K to justify that fight as me being capable of pushing it to its performance limits, nor am I generally amazing for it to transfer. I’m average. I could reverse a bf109G14 in a crippled yak-9k.

My yak piloting results

She’s a good plane. She’s not amazing. She’s not a spitfire or a zero or a pyörrömerski or something like that. The 29 ammo does mean you need a high skill floor to do well with her in gaining good shots and prevents you from making snap-shots-of-opportunity like you can with the Mustang Mk Ia or even yak-3.

But she’s not helpless nor defenceless. She puts up one hell of a fight.

Also she’s not better than Bf109G10. If the other pilot extended away, I’d have probably lost after they re-engaged. But she can fight back, and that means she’s a competent plane.

As an aside

Literally why I went to fly it in ASB to see how she performs before commenting on its A2A capabilities (I was confident of its A2G capabilities)

As for the console part - GSB is my only advice. GSB removes the aiming advantage mouse aim has, but alas rotations mean you only get to fly ever so often.

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If the game was 30x real life speed, then everyone would have a 1/30th the reload time and 30x speed.

Repairs are just a game concession.

The speed of the game is 1x, and repairs are a magic spell your crew casts slowly depending on what is broken.

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I guess I should add the line that directly above the quoted segment.

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It’s fun because that same argument is used by Russian mains (as the one you’re arguing with) to systematically harass other mains into telling them their vehicles should be higher in br, yet when it’s their turn to face a BR raise, they’re skilled as they can and their vehicles can’t ever be at a significant disadvantage cause they suffer, and every single argument you may draw to them to prove otherwise is ‘plain skill issue’.

false flagged by the only player who’s gaslighing.

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as someone playing all nations most ru vehicles survive a lot more random bs

The one you set to make it look as if you you played it a lot you mean? Or to further your argument?

If your suggesting making it harder for pc to aim planes, I’m for it :) after all, it’s not really balanced consoles vs pc.

I can’t trust someone whom is biased.

Also, Spookston didn’t actually get 16 kills if you watched the video. He got 6 in one life, respawned and got 4.
If you have ever watched his videos, they all say “broken” “op” etc on all the Russian vehicles.

I’m glad your opinion doesn’t agree with me but your stats do:

Hellcat has a higher K/d, and higher wr, so clearly it proves bombs are more effective, clearly it should go up in br then?

The only time I had Yak-9UT set on my profile was when I wanted to showcase my stats on it (make a screanshoot of them). It was never my favourite vehicle to begin with but it is amusing that You want to argue what my personal favourite vehicle is.

If You want to discuss things, You should reply to what people say, not what You imagine they have said.

The only one biased here is someone who have played less than 10 battles with something and wants to discuss it

That was cute but not really.

Compare the number of battles and we can talk then. Not to mention that W/R has nothing to do with how well vehicle performs.

Not to mention that at that B.R., 12.7mm on hellcat can destroy a lot of tanks and that is how I got such a good K/D.

Thanks for using that as another example that shows that bombs are not everything

Again, thanks for confirming i was right all along.