Sure, it has good high-speed nose authority, but it still doesn’t mean you’re going to hit.
yes, as well as things like CL13B Mk6, F-11F-1, J34, Hunter FGA.9, G.91YS, etc.
A-10 has N/A placement, will never be balanced because gaijin refuses to implement methods to do so besides undertiering it in air RB with advanced AAMs. Ideally it goes to a BR in air where it can only mostly shoot at jets with flares in downtiers.
F8U-2, F-8E, MiG-21MF/SMT, Mirage 3 are examples of what it ideally would face in an uptier.
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No F-5C?
How would a CL13B Mk6 beat a competent F-104 pilot?
You’re describing a 1v2 and wondering why you aren’t winning btw. Even so, it isn’t difficult to bait both jets into your rear aspect then reverse both at the same time. You would focus the subsonic btw.
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It is down to you to miss, not the enemy jet to dodge… the F-104 has WAY more nose authority at high speed than is almost ever necessary to achieve kills in head on shots or rear aspect shots. It’s only in side aspect it struggles.
Do you want me to list every jet? I listed things off the top of my head. Yes F-5C would also be fine.
This is the fullest extent as to which we can decompress late transonics/early supersonics without gaijin actually going back and adding the other half of gen1-3 jets into the game that they skipped. (We’re missing a shit ton of jets from that era and if we had them we could decompress so things like the F-104 don’t face subsonics almost at all.
That said even, the CL13B at the very least is a very fast transonic, has extremely good agility, and has 9Bs to try to get a close range rear aspect shot in a reversal on the F-104.
Which is why competent players rarely struggle with dodging F-104 attacks.
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I literally cannot remember a time anybody other than myself actually turned side aspect pre-emptively to abuse this about the F-104. You are exaggerating the playerbase’s knowledge. Even so, F-104 still holds the cards and the advantages. Best case scenario for a subsonic that can’t catch the F-104 (assuming F-104 pilot isnt bad) is to survive. You aren’t getting the kill unless you chase the F-104 when he rearms.
Yeah, that’s pretty much how it usually goes.
You skipping entire posts?
I think those would be a nice addition that should honestly be here already. The F-104 is more annoying than lethal (from my understanding) at the moment. I can tell by the difference in K/D between your Saggitario compared to your F-104s (other than the later F-104s, such as the F-104G), albeit you have only played 18 battles in the Saggitario. The F-104s are basically untouchable, especially in a full downtier, but if you play right in an agile jet, they shouldn’t be able to touch you either, unless you get slow. This is like what you’re saying here:
Please stop fooling yourself into believing these WT stats matter at all in a vacuum. I played the USA F-104A/C a long ass time ago when it was 10.0 mainly. These stats DO NOT MATTER because the variables are NEVER the same as to when somebody played this or that jet or if they had premium at the time to help spade faster to perform better etc.
Of which I played recently btw, unlike the F-104A/C.
I spaded it in that amount of time with no boosters and only a premium account. That should be all you need to know about this jet when it was 9.0 (as that is when I played it, again, relevant as to WHEN you play something. SOME people played the sagg when it was god damn 8.0 and had 1000 m/s railgun one tap cannons facing Me262s.
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Fair enough.
As I’ve stated many times, F-104 has more than enough nose authority to where it is not up to the subsonic to dodge. You can do whatever turn you want, if the F-104 predicts it he will simply kill you because he can easily pull inside your turn.
I still think the Yak-38 should be 9.0 in ground RB. MCLOS guided missiles, and only two of them at that, is nothing special for CAS at 9.0 and only a mere 1 BR above that america is about to get laser guided bombs with high magnification thermal targetting pods and an autotracker on a stealth platform.
Did the same Topic for Air Sim where the yak38 is 9.3. When u play only cockpit mode and cant look behind u its much more worse. IR Missle are much better than Radar missle because of no warning. and there isnt only 1 yak38, there are 5-6. But the only response i get is “Skill Issue” :D I play DCS and know how to fly in Sim mode. This war thunder community is incredible some times… xD Some big comedians out here. I play for 20 years video games and have never seen such funny people like in war thunder.
I do think that the higher BR has merit for air battles since air is the dominant focus of the mode and it is unfortunate that many planes around this BR bracket lack flares entirely.
However for ground battles, I think that the ground attack capabilities of the plane take precedence and needing to dedicate 75% of its four hardpoints to field two MCLOS missiles isn’t particularly spectacular for the BR. Similar peers have greater payloads and better flight performance.
That comment didn’t age well . . .
Why? What they did again? :D