Apparently only ER one,i thought normal got it too.
If you want historical matchmaking I hope you enjoy getting slammed by T-80s in an M60
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So … I am not saying that these 2 should not face each other, even though the retirement date of the US A-4E is before the Yak-130 was introduced.
What I am saying is why these 2 are both 9.3 in Ground RB
Turn time, climb rate almost double, HMD, CCIP on all armament. (I wonder, does it break as easy as the A4?)
In Air RB of course, no missiles, no flares but maneuverability that nothing would hit it anyway.
Plus it has a different role.
HMD’s are for air-to-air missiles and radars, the Yak doesn’t have a2a missiles or a radar
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Then what did you mean by this:
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What you just said was nonsense
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BR is based on how well the vehicles perform on average. The A-4E Can carry a bigger bomb or more of the smaller ones compared to the YAK-130. It also has access to MCLOS missiles which can be very effective at that BR if played right. So the chance for it to destroy more ground units per flyout is probably higher.
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lol 130 is much worse than the Skyhawk.
When I was spading the F6C, 130s were free kills
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How about that then? The only thing Alphy has over 130 are countermeasures, that are kinda next to useless in grb. And it doesn’t get a single unit of guided munition.
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Another wikipedia screenshot 😭😭😭
And dude it literally has CCIP with 6 bombs
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MiG-15 Vs F-22A more like, Poor North Korea
or F-15 vs P-51D
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PO-2 vs starfire
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as we have seen through combat records the Po-2 is still the superior aircraft there
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year doesnt matter.
the yak 130 is busted for its BR but its years of service arent anything to do with BR placement.
He clearly doesn’t know about the Pz2000 classic doesn’t he? the 2002 TD HE launcher fighting WW2 tanks
You have a beef with wikipedia or something? We’re not discussing any wobbly matter here, production and deployment dates are there and even if they’re off by a year or two it doesn’t really matter. Listen, if someone told you that wikipedia isn’t a credible source - you shouldn’t just discard a whole thing like a well-behaved kid.
Fighting SPAA with missiles btw. And the only rockets it gets are MM, which are pretty bad, especially compared to the ones 130 gets. Even the bombs 130 gets are better.
All of that for the same br.
If you’re trying to defend or justify something - you’re failing miserably, same goes for you trying to make any argument.
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ill take flareless f-15A anyday
No, it’s just nobody who even tries to make any serious case with anything does something so silly, like come on.
Because it isn’t a source within it’s self, it’s kind of obvious if you understand the differences between Primary, Secondary and Tertiary sources.
you can just land Mk 82s behind MBTs and AA with a 0.5/0 second fuse and instantly kill them.
You’re comparing apples with oranges.
War Thunder doesn’t balance aircraft by year of introduction, it balances them by overall combat effectiveness, which is reflected in their battle rating.
Yes, the Yak-130 is roughly 40 years newer and has significantly better flight performance, with a much higher climb rate, far better turning capability, and superior low-speed handling. However, those advantages come with major trade-offs that are easy to overlook. The Yak-130 has no air-to-air missiles, no flares, no chaff, no RWR, and no missile approach warning, making it far more vulnerable to enemy aircraft and modern SPAAs once it’s detected. Even though it can carry up to four TV-guided bombs, it still lacks the defensive systems needed to consistently survive long enough to employ them effectively.
The A-4E Early, on the other hand, carries flares/chaff, an RWR, AIM-9B Sidewinders, and a much more versatile strike arsenal, including two AGM-62 Walleye guided bombs and three additional Bullpup missiles. Those defensive systems and multirole capabilities significantly increase its effectiveness despite its inferior flight performance. Like others said, if you have more skill, you’ll almost always get more kills per sortie in the A-4E.
If you compare the two on the official War Thunder wiki, the trade-offs become pretty clear: https://wiki.warthunder.com/unit/compare?tree=0&unitIds=a_4e_early%2Cyak_130_early
The Yak-130 is unquestionably the better aircraft in a dogfight, but it’s also much easier to kill because it has no electronic or countermeasure protection. That’s exactly the kind of trade-off Gaijin considers when assigning BRs, which is why a 40-year difference in introduction date isn’t a meaningful argument on its own.
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A +/-10 year range would have A P-36 in the same match as sabres.
Historical battle ratings a personal pet peeve of mine, because of just how much they would not work from a gameplay design at all, and are basically fundamentally incompatible with how the game is balanced at the moment.
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