So when is this thing going to get a reasonable br? In my 8.x games recently its easily the vehicle with the most nukes.
Its got absurd durability. The ammo racks don’t detonate to direct hits. The turret doesn’t produce spalling and all spalling is absorbed by the 5mm plates around the ammo rack (nearly unique among all vehicles in the game to have an armored ammo rack). I just hit the tip of a XM-246s barrel with a bullpup and just broke the barrels with 58kg HE. No other AA survives that hit. The inability for HE to detonate ammo the ammo rack due to the armor means you need a full crew kill. Sometimes not a problem, sometimes its unloading shot after shot and watching components or tiny internal armor walls eat the shot. Its infuriating. We don’t even have armored firewalls for nearly any of the WW2 era tanks that had them (leading to crew overpressure from engine hits) and now we are getting armored ammo racks.
Not just that, the 35mms are absurdly overtuned at this point. Killing vehicles with hatch hits is trivial. I’ve had my ammo rack in my Type69 hull detonate from a hatch hit. M60s cupola is a joke. Centurion’s roof is paper. Even my chieftan died to a gunner optic hit yesterday. There reallly isn’t much outside russian heavies that are actually survivable vs this thing. And yeah, we have had the 35mm around in a lot of forms, but universally they are wide set. That means hitting barrels and weak points is hard and usually only with 1 gun. A centered 35mm gives you the ability to instantly barrel a tank, even at range.
It is also a perfectly viable AA. One of the best tracking radars (compare to the AMX30’s that can’t even put a box around a plane without wobbling completely off the aircraft) combined with DM13 APHE one-shotting wings. Just had it happen again in my scimitar. nearly 4km up, tracers nowhere near me, one hit with a dm-13 and the whole wing disintigrated.
We have a bunch of other 8.7 AAs that have gone up their AT performance. The XM-246 is better than all of them. Its one of the only AA in the entire game with >1kdr and >1 kps and the highest kdr AA i can find on statshark. Its been sitting at 8.3 long enough.
dont forget compared to the other gepard clones it has:
best gun depression
best ammo count
guns close together = twice the chance to 1 shot through cupolas and other weakspots
whats cringe is you nitpicking stuff that makes 0 difference. the gun placement and turret bounciness by themselves would make it the best gepard clone let alone in combination lol
i never denied any of your other points, but when 1/3 of your points are just made up it removes credibility from yourself and makes it much easier to claim that your are arguing in bad faith, invalidating your argument, if you want to be correct, the least you can do is not be wrong
If you have several nearly identical vehicles at the same BR, it is inevitable that one of them will be slightly better than the others. Nerfing the top one doesn’t fix the issue, it only changes which one is best and which players want it nerfed. People were calling for the gepard to get nerfed forever and all the German mains were calling it a “hoes mad” situation and now the shoe’s on the other foot.