It also does not have tracers so the round are invisible.
It was lowered because its missile is bugged.
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that makes it less convincing
I disagree, you see people uptier the m247 more than the gepard for a reason
MBT-70 is much more mobile than T-72A, just look at it’s HP/t value.
No, that would be KPz-70.
Placing 120S almost a whole BR above M1 is pure comedy.
It has mediocre mobility with no reverse speed, it also has bad gun handling and reload speed.
It’s dart is basically a reskin of Russian APDS so it’s nothing special.
T-55A and A1A1 sharing the same BR makes no sense.
HE-VT ammo that has no tracers doesn’t belong at 8.7, simple as.
It can also kill MBTs for your information.
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Object 292 is at 10.7.
No it’s not.
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Don’t know where to even begin with this, but just want to say that HE-VT is certainly not overrated.
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Yes and no, its on the same level as tanks like the Leo 2A4 and Challenger 1 when it comes to its role. What it actually needs is a better round to match those 2. They should give it M833
T-55A is 8.3, he made a mistake. The AM1 and AMD are both 8.7 though, with decent armour and LRFs. While the A1A1 still has the old rangefinder, its by no means a bad tank. It excels in flanking and hit and run tactics. But with the current small CQB maps and meta it has trouble using those tactics.
He said A1A1 should go down to 8.7.
Really? Because if you check my account I have both and I use both in top tier, the difference between the stats doesn’t make sense,If you see someone using the M247 in high tier, have you stopped to think that maybe it’s because they haven’t unlocked other better anti-aircraft weapons like the Chaparral or the LAV AD?While people who use the Gepard in high tier often use it even as a first vehicle like an assault tank taking advantage of the mobility of the Leopard 1, the stabilizer and its APDS ammunition.
His ammunition is not visible, his huge figure is.
Where did you get that it’s bugged? Before I had the LAV AD I used Chaparral in 11.7 without any problem, are you sure you know how to use it? Or maybe you have no idea how to use it and that’s why you say it was removed from BR because it was bugged? I’d like to know where you got the information that it was removed from BR due to a bug,Also, just in case I’ll tell you how to use it, its rockets detect heat and follow it, when they are 100% effective is when you use it against any plane Preferably when he is facing away and you can see his tail, which is the area that generates the most heat, and if he also uses an afterburner, all the better for you. It will be impossible for you to miss unless he uses flares.
I am main EEUU and the Leopard 1A1 seems like a joke tank to me, it is just the same Leopard 8.0 with a stabilizer and APFSDs,If you stop to think about it, my comparison with the M60 RISE is not far-fetched, let’s say it’s the same as comparing the M60 8.0 and the Leopard 1 8.0, think about it, the M60 RISE has low mobility but instead it offers you stabilizer, ERA armor and APFSDS ammunition, the leopard 1a1 does not offer you ERA or acceptable armor, instead it offers you mobility and better APFSDS, both have stabilizer.
Indeed, the only thing that the MBT70 surpasses the T72 in is “speed”, not in mobility, nor in survival, nor in firepower, only speed and a 20mm, well, you know what? The TURM III It is at 8.3 and gives you a stabilizer, a 30mm auxiliary cannon and better ammunition than the MBT70.
So how can a pilot dodge something he doesn’t see coming ?
Gepard with it’s 18 HP/t surely isn’t fast in higher tiers.
Thinking T-55A and A1A1 deserve to sit at the same BR is also a joke.
You forgot about massively better gun handling and gun depression.
You say that the kpz70 should not be 9.3? It is the same mbt70 but with more engine power and a faster autoloader. The t72 is a colossus, compare the shooting test of an mbt70 against a t72, The MBT70 can only penetrate the lower area of the T72, what happens if the T72 covers that area? On the other hand, the T72 destroys the MBT70 from all sides.
They are not completely invisible, by the time the radar manages to track the plane, the plane, unless it suffers severe blindness, must have seen you.
It is.
T55:good mobility, only poor reverse speed, stabilizer on both horizontal and vertical axes, apfsds, good mobility
Leopard 1a1:good mobility in all senses, stabilizer, apfsds, stabilizer, non-existent armor.
I didn’t forget, but did you say better cannon? It has a 152mm launcher but its APFSDS if I’m not mistaken is the APFSDS that penetrates less in all 9.3, and the gun depression only affects maps with a lot of elevation, have you ever had a “depression” problem when using the t34? IS? No, right? I haven’t had any problems just go through flat areas of the map that are always there.
I had no errors, I know that the t55A is 8.3, I said “t55A (8.7)” in reference to the fact that its BR should be 8.7
You’re right, you know? But the problem is that they don’t give it to him, and if they don’t give it to him, then my solution isn’t bad, using M60 ammunition against Leopard 2 among other tanks.
Abrams: 105mm cannon that makes it difficult to penetrate any 10.7mm tank, average armor, good mobility.
120S:120mm cannon that penetrates any tank up to top tier with ease, armored turret being that of the Abrams, only problem? M60 chassis
1.5s faster reload while being even faster is a big advantage.
Shoot at the driver’s port ?
You can hide, you don’t need to stay in spawn.
My question still stands, how can you dodge something coming at you that’s invisible ?
Sorry but it isn’t.
Everything points to the fact that you’re terribly wrong.
A1A1 has better gun handling, gun depression, reload speed, shell, mobility and only has worse armor against autocannon.
Yeah sure, both deserve to be at the same BR lol.
No I didn’t.
Yes.
Just force yourself to go to the specific areas of the map.
This isn’t an excuse.
It can penetrate everything just fine.
Yeah it has mobility of a 6.7 heavy which hampers it quite a bit.
I have both and the t55A’s only bad mobility is in reverse, its apfsds is not bad, only someone who doesn’t know how to play would say that an apfsds in 8.3 is bad, plus it has good armor. As if that were not enough, it is a terror in 7.3
It can kill mbt’s on very rare occasions, and frontally it is practically impossible,For the gepard, even eliminating an abrams is an easy task.
Wow.
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T-72A from BR 9.3 to BR 9.7 with the only reason of yes? Since when the MBT-70’s mobility is in par of the T-72A’s mobility?
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MBT-70 from BR 9.3 to BR 9.0 is not needed, the vehicle’s armor, firepower and mobility says by itself, the spaced armor gives a huge advantages over chemical and weaker APDS FS ammunitions, like the 3BM25 you state seems to be good enough for increasing its BR;
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M1 Abrams from BR 10.7 to BR 10.3 is not needed, since any other counterparts also is a BR higher, it’s balanced, if you want your vehicles to go down, consider the others too, like the Leopard 2A4 and similars, T-72Bs and similars, Challenger 2 and similars and so on.
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120S indeed has a good turret armor but the same can’t be said to the chassis armor, and the limiting mobility, the current BR makes this vehicle effective, no need to be changed, as any other vehicle you suggested,
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Leopard A1A1 also doesn’t need to go down, just because it’s the “same” as other vehicle, which is not, you clearly pointed:
It doesn’t need to go down, is a mobile vehicle, with good ammunition and good gun handling.
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T-55A to BR 8.7 means literally destroying this vehicle, and from what I could find in your profile, not a single match was been logged on the T-55A in your service records, neither in arcade battles or realistic battles;
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Gepard going from BR 8.3 to BR 8.7 is also not needed, compared to the ItPsV 90, it has a limiting mobility, which I may assume is the reason for this BR difference;
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M247 is a very effective anti-air vehicle the proximity fuse ammunition is one of this key characteristics, by this logic, the Gepard should be BR 8.0, Zsu-23-4 at BR 7.7.
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VIdAr, PzH 2000 and PLZ 05 certainly would need a BR change, but at the moment, the entire game needs a BR decompression in my opinion;
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Object 292, currently at BR 10.7 doesn’t needs to go down to BR 10.3, is undoubtely a effective vehicle at any BR I assume, the armor is a trolling machine, like throwing a D 20 dice.
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