Looks like it is referring to the ability to shoot down attacking aircraft rather than missiles.
Could mean a similar thing as “self defence”, where the missile load isn’t used offensively.
Similar to how Jaguar, Tornado & Harrier are listed as self defence for its AD capabilities;
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Surely that means asraam can also do that no?
Yeah, but if we’re talking 1985 there isn’t much of an ASRAAM to compare against. The Matra presentation also claims no BVR but we know thats also nonsense;
And 360° engagement;
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Yeah but bvr for asraam would essentially be useless… if the target changes aspect it side of lock on it has no datalink to fall back on unlike ir missiles with dl like mica ir
No? Datalink would increase Pk sure, but the seeker performs a scan pattern so unless the target has really dramatically changed locations the scan would pick it up as it gets closer.
You could argue that data linking to a passive missile reduces the passive nature of it resulting in emissions and potentially defensive actions.
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What’s min rad of asraam, r73 derivatives min rad is 200m. I bet it’s pretty big considering no tvc.
From what I’ve seen r73 derivatives have the tightest min radius of a air to air missile
Okay that makes sense. For some reason I thought it wouldn’t scan
Wish I knew. :)
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Decided to see what ChatGPT would make of the math. Guessing a speed of mach 3 (so not the most accurate)
1.6 ish km doesnt actually sound too far off what I was imagining.
This means nothing without knowing asraam aoa ability
45 degrees, i cannot think of many aircraft other than maybe the F-22 who can make substantial use of that…
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That’s fair (especially considering Rafael/mirage 2k can’t even do that so being able to be fired from any aoa is useless)
If I remember correctly, we used to have G limits for firing for missiles in-game which was a thing found in manuals/primary documents but other primary documents found showed there really wasn’t any limitation IRL preventing pilots from firing missiles in extreme maneuvers, just that it was something a bit of a recommendation? or something of that sort which caused Gaijin to remove it from the game.
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I imagine they removed it for gameplay, same reason why we don’t have like 5G limits when supersonic.
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Pretty sure I’ve seen the IRIS-T being quoted as halving half the min turn radius of the R-73, and germany had expressly designed the IRIS-T to be more maneuvrable than the R-73 (which they owned). I can’t find the source anymore tho so take that with a grain of salt.
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to be fair, im low key assuming r-73 has the same min rad as rvv-md/r-74m as they use the same method of tvc. so just to be clear, that 200m refers to rvv-md/r-74m
Sounds right though, given the IRIS-T pulls 60+G vs the R-73s 40
r74m/rvvmd
full brochure
r-73 is 60 gs IRL, idk why its 40 gs in game
