(WIP) Modern IR (FOX2) Missile - History, Performance & Discussion

I added a new turkish missile: the Bozdoğan.
Unfortunatly since it’s very new (only started production this year) there’s really not a lot of information on it.
If you got any sources giving more characteristics then please respond to this comment so i can upgrade my thread on the only turkish FOX 2 missile!

*Only asking for OPEN SOURCE information :)

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Does everyone know if the RB-74M really existed?

I know the RB-74 is just the swedish designation of the AIM-9L (and it went into service extensively)
But the RB-24M (swedish designation of the AIM-9M), never saw anything about it or even mentionning it.
Is it a real export AIM-9M that sweden bough or just a balancing thing that Gaijin has done because the Gripen with 6 AIM-9L would be DOA?

This is a Balance-somewhere at the exhibition there was an RB-74 rocket with improved data…they conditionally gave it the name RB-74M…

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I found a document saying that americans refused selling them the Mike model so they asked the Germans for the Li version, for the sake of sweden’s balance I hope that purchase happened.

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RB-74(M) is not related to AIM-9M, they wrote M to show that it’s “Modernized” RB-74

now this is a copy of aim-9m
The best thing to do is to make a report and either remove it and replace it with aim-9m, or change it to the real version.

Amazing work!

What are your sources for the 9M seeker blocks?

I think it is a balancing decision by Gaijin. The closest I have gotten to evidence of a Swedish 9M was that it had been brought in for limited compatibility testing.

Although the Hungarian variant uses the 9M which should suffice for verification of utilization.

No, developers have said that RB 74 (M) is a modernization. M is the modernization, not the AIM-9M.

It is assumed to be a Swedish upgraded AIM-9L/I-1.

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Do you know if it will be copy paste of AIM-9M on live server, or if it will be differentiated from AIM-9M?

Will this missile get the smokey motor of the 9L?

Thank you for this, do you think the de-chirped 9Li will have much different performance to the 9M?

(Do you know what model 9M Gaijin is trying to represent in game?)

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As far as I am aware. All dechirped missiles have been hard denied

A mix of what reinshil posted (I think on the AIM-9 thread) and what I found on the internet.
I think the main source that I used is a random Reddit post. But I’ve searched on the internet and this random Reddit post is logical and in accordance to other sources I’ve found. So that’s why I kept it there.

An interesting post about IRCCM (especialy IIR seeker) by @Aurelian_ROW

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Spooky, but this is also why I feel ASRAAM will be the most meta IR missile.

Firing first from the furthest range will be the deciding factor. If your missile is 40G or 100G you’re not going to defeat any of them in kinematics.

So the low/no smoke lofting ASRAAM is going to be coming for you long before any IRIS-T or 9X etc.

I’m really curious how gaijin could balance missiles like the asraam and mica ir they seem almost un beatable very little indication that they are even coming after you if fired at you from these long ranges

Sure but the MICA IR has a stated range of 60KM and a practical range of around 40km. All that with lofting, LOAL, IOG, and the ability to rate around a circle (degrees per second tracking) of 100. Aside from straight G overload pull I really don’t see how the ASRAAM is better than it in any way.

Even in G overload, the MICA is at a advantage.
50g for the ASRAAM and 50G+ and TVC for the MICA.
So at for tigther shot the MICA will be able to pull off sooner of the rail and will have sharper maneuvers.
The 90° HOBS seeker of the ASRAAM is an advantage tho compared to the 60° one of the MICA.

At longuer range the MICA will be 30G compared to the 50G od the ASRAAM. But anyways 30G is enough when your missile is already aligned with the target. The insane G pull the missile can make is more to aligne the missile to the target and then it goes for it but don’t need to maneuvers that mutch. The most the aircraft can do is 10-12G so 30G is already enough.

The ASRAAM is better in weigh, it’s a lighter missile so it’s easier to equip small figther will it (especially on wingtips). And again its seeker being capable of 90° HOBS is more capable than the 60° of the MICA.

What makes you think this? MICA VL is 50G still at 7km away. Is it still burning by that point?