Will the T84 plot arrive in the USSR through Ukraine? Because it is part of the Warsaw Pact!

We would’ve seen that if Mr [Politically Redacted] didn’t make a terrible blunder of 21c history.
That blunder terminated the option of adding T-84 to the USSR TT.

That is why politics are lame when we play a game :|
It isn’t just useless; it ruins the game.

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Doesn’t matter. You’re ignoring the obvious political backlash of adding a nation to a nation it’s currently at war with.

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Yes this^

Couldn’t agree more many people will be very angry and it will definitely make gaijin look like they are taking political side in an ongoing conflict even tho that may not be their intention

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Finally a grind without borders

(I would rather that every 1 to 1 copy disappear aswell, one with slight differences or more can stay)

Tbh I’m not even sure if gajin seems that keen to adding former USSR nations as the only post soviet nation vehicle in the tree is the Kazakh SU-25BM which even then could fall under the export rule like the Czech, Egyptian and Syrian vehicles as well as the Vilkas going to Germany.

IMO I’d say the post soviet country vehicles are either
A. Going to fall under export rule where possible and we see very few of them (all while any vehicle that isn’t able to (i.e the VEF I-16) would be left out).
B.Fall into a subtree for other nations (I’ve heard quite a few people talking about the Baltics for Swede for example) where it most likely misses most of the unique vehicles.
C. Dumped into either a Turkish or Polish/Czech/Conglomerate Eastern European tree depending on the individual country, heavily depends if gajin can alter the UI and progression to allow more vehicles without causing issues (Big ask).

Of course if there ever is some anoucment about a post soviet state appearing in the USSR, then I’ll eat my words (metaphorically), though that would require to address the elephant in the forums so I don’t think it would be anytime soon.

We can still get another T-84 through Malaysia at least

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I mean, I’m not wrong. Anyways, it shouldn’t matter at the end of the day. Perhaps we’ll see Czechoslovakia in its place.

ackshually… its a Belarusian upgrade for Kazakh frogfoots

(both countries use it btw)

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Forgot about that, fair enough, I was just going by operator country

USSR isn’t at war with anyone as it doesn’t exist anymore.

Bringing politics in the game is just dumb.

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The game is political at its core. It’s based on conflict between nation. It started as axis vs allies.
All of these political issues would have been avoided if the tech trees and “sub-trees” were done better, and tanks would go to their manufacturing countries. Instead of the absurdity of China receiving an Abrams, or USSR receiving an Ukrainian tank.

No it’s not.
That’s what you want it to be.

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It doesn’t matter how you spin it. Armed conflict between nations is political and the game started based on ww2, between axis vs allies. That is political.

RU and US are often times paired together or even playing against themselves lol.

This cannot be political but you want it to be for some reason.

Adding a T84 to USSR can be seen as political, as a statement that Ukraine is still part of that bloc, when currently they are NATO aligned.

Again, real life alignments don’t matter.
This is why US can be paired with RU and China to fight against NATO aligned countries like Germany, UK, France, etc.

This game isn’t political, it’s the people obsessed with it that try to make it into one.

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They do matter, because players will get upset. Like how the chinese players got upset at the VT4 being added to Japan.

That’s why i said this

All of these political issues would have been avoided if the tech trees and “sub-trees” were done better

The current tech trees are a relic of a by gone era, where matches were historical and it was only ww2. They need a complete rework or the political backlash will continue to appear every time they add a new tank to completely unrelated nations.

Political heads getting upset over vehicle additions but are perfectly fine with our current MM that makes non-political matchups. Double standards at it’s best and it just shows people don’t want to share their own vehicles with others, simply by using politics as an excuse.

Taiwan is related to China.
Ukraine is related to USSR.

Political heads getting upset over vehicle additions but are perfectly fine with our current MM that makes non-political matchups. Double standards at it’s best and it just shows people don’t want to share their own vehicles with others, simply by using politics as an excuse.

It’s not exactly double standards. And not wanting your nation’s tank in another’s one that has been hostile to you is not an unreasonable motivation to be upset.

Taiwan is related to China.
Ukraine is related to USSR.

You just made a political statement to which some may agree or disagree.

It’s unreasonable as your nation can be paired with hostile nations to go against friendly ones. This is happening for years now, but I don’t see people discussing it that much, citing politics as their arguments.

People use politics as a cheap front to gatekeep others from receiving their vehicles.

This isn’t a subjective thing you can agree or disagree with. Both of those are factual.