? What are you even talking about. The F-15C GE isn’t a brick it can very much manouver and have an effect on the match in mid-late game.
I think you’ve misunderstood what i’ve said lol. Im saying that 8 AIM-120’s on a EFT is worse than 12 R-77-1’s on an SU-30SM. Please properly read and have context instead of just diving randomly into conversations.
that’s pretty much obvious, but it isn’t a problem of missiles amount, but the missile itself being completely inferior compared to the R-77-1.
my list
rafale
su-30sm2
su-30mkm
su-30sm
aesa eft
eft
fa18e
f-15c ge
Interesting, but why AESA EFT below SU-30SM and F-18E above F-15C GE?
cause i value r-77-1s a lot over the amraams.
I’d rather have the bad fm with good missiles than good fm with mid missiles
fa18e is more maneuverable than f-15c ge which makes it good for notch fighting
Why rafale over su30sm2?
cause both can do the funny stay in the notch while shooting missiles, and mica can just turn in at almost any distance and nuke everything while rafale still has one of best fm just behind euro
Ah yes i forgot that EFT also uses AMRAAMS
True
Doesnr rafale struggle quite a bit doing that?
with the irst, you can launch micas from track mem. Its just slightly harder than the su-30sm2 with notch fighting.
it’s more systems management yes compared to sm2, but with the rafale being an absolutel rocket ship that can get into notch super easily, it’s still the best plane in da game imo
But micas dont get datalink that way right?
yeah no dl, so it’s really only advisable for sub 20ish km. which is what notch fights tends to be anyways
Also why not gripen e?
forgot it exists honestly, i would put it above fa18e
They do. You can launch through radar mode in Mem mode, switch back to IRST and continue datalinking if you’re quick about it. With Rafale case, you have small vertical (-10 +45?) gimbal limit on IRST tho, further complicating matters.
Actually not, after rewatching replays in sensor view. The moment you switch from radar modes to IRST, datalink is immediately closed… and restored, when you switch back to radar.
Radar scope datalink marker remains in IRST, that initially fooled me, at the same time, its not exactly wrong - aircraft is still “tracking” target and can restore datalink the moment you let radar work.
Mech Typhoon’s radar is probably the worst radar at and above 14.0.
I would much rather be using F-16I’s radar than the 14.3 Typhoon’s.
Dunno man, the US soldiers in Iraq that believed Raytheon about the Patriot being able to intercept SCUDs might have something to say about that. I believe there is a few other countries that might want to have a chat with them about their marketing right now too, but that’s a bit to current for the forums.
I originally thought the same as you, but interestingly enough, above 1000kph, the F-15C GE is actually quite maneuverable, even outdoing the EF-2000, Su-30SM2 and F-18E. The F-15C can be a dogfight menace as long as you keep the fight fast and short.
The Rafale is the only one nimble enough to constantly pull harder at all speeds and all altitudes.
Here’s the Statshark chart at 5’000m(though it’s similar at all altitude higher than that).
Blue is Rafale, Orange is EF-2000, Green is F-18E and red is F-15C GE.
Other way around for me.
I used to think the EFTs radar was the worst mech radar, but then I played the F-16I. That thing showed me a whole new realm of suffering.
Random F-16? They’re literally adding the upgrade package every single US F-16 in inventory currently has😂 this was an aircraft many people wanted, it is unfortunate it is unproperly modeled
