Will the aim120D really "save" US top tier?

But micas dont get datalink that way right?

yeah no dl, so it’s really only advisable for sub 20ish km. which is what notch fights tends to be anyways

Also why not gripen e?

forgot it exists honestly, i would put it above fa18e

They do. You can launch through radar mode in Mem mode, switch back to IRST and continue datalinking if you’re quick about it. With Rafale case, you have small vertical (-10 +45?) gimbal limit on IRST tho, further complicating matters.

Actually not, after rewatching replays in sensor view. The moment you switch from radar modes to IRST, datalink is immediately closed… and restored, when you switch back to radar.

Radar scope datalink marker remains in IRST, that initially fooled me, at the same time, its not exactly wrong - aircraft is still “tracking” target and can restore datalink the moment you let radar work.

Mech Typhoon’s radar is probably the worst radar at and above 14.0.
I would much rather be using F-16I’s radar than the 14.3 Typhoon’s.

Dunno man, the US soldiers in Iraq that believed Raytheon about the Patriot being able to intercept SCUDs might have something to say about that. I believe there is a few other countries that might want to have a chat with them about their marketing right now too, but that’s a bit to current for the forums.

I originally thought the same as you, but interestingly enough, above 1000kph, the F-15C GE is actually quite maneuverable, even outdoing the EF-2000, Su-30SM2 and F-18E. The F-15C can be a dogfight menace as long as you keep the fight fast and short.

The Rafale is the only one nimble enough to constantly pull harder at all speeds and all altitudes.

Here’s the Statshark chart at 5’000m(though it’s similar at all altitude higher than that).
Blue is Rafale, Orange is EF-2000, Green is F-18E and red is F-15C GE.

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Other way around for me.

I used to think the EFTs radar was the worst mech radar, but then I played the F-16I. That thing showed me a whole new realm of suffering.

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Random F-16? They’re literally adding the upgrade package every single US F-16 in inventory currently has😂 this was an aircraft many people wanted, it is unfortunate it is unproperly modeled

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Different preferences probably.
I love 60x15 scanning.

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Yeah I found the aesa typhoons better than mkm

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I don’t understand why the gaijin didn’t incorporate the AIM-120D3 as counterpart of the second-generation Fox-3 missiles of other countries that clearly have better rocket (R-77-1 < - R-77; PL-12A < - PL-12); instead, they said they would add a “software-upgraded” version (AIM-120D < - AIM-120C-5).

Playing devil’s advocate for a moment… They did. It was the C5.

The C5 did upgrade the motor. Just like R-77 to R-77-1.

The issue is that they failed to fix any outstanding bug reports for the B first and they favoured making Fox3s easy to defeat over anything else, which mitigates the AMRAAMs range advantage.

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Sorry, but I’d take insane airframe with the best radar in the game with excellent defensive kit over anemic flanker airframe and worse radar even if it gets more missiles

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If the C/Ds had lower seeker FoVs they would actually be worth shooting long range.

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The R-77 is only nerfed by technical limitations, every single aspect (even the not thoroughly documented ones) are correctly modeled in-game.

And I don’t find that “nerf” as argument enough for Gaijin to develop a whole new drag system to buff/fix it until they actually decide to model the rest of missiles properly.