Still, AMRAAM is the only thing that can confidently launch at 20+ km, (except off course FK90), and even PL12 which is remotely close is more of a 15km max thing, nevertheless R77. I think the other thing is not only is R77 inferior but also Mech, thus why many instead find SMT much easier to play with
Again, doesn’t matter. They fire 1-2 amraams then go defensive while you can’t go defensive. You can crank and everything. As long as you’re flying in a way that enables you to still track, you will be hit by the AMRAAM around the same time at best when the R27ER connects. R27ER can’t defeat AMRAAM consistently.
If they do go full defense - why you cant? Religion? Gender? Etc?
Even if you will have an AMRAAM in that case - theres will be very low chances of doing smth usefull in result of that.
??? Because the amraam still tracks?
PL-12 has near to identical practical range, in compare with AMRAAM. But turns better.
Wow, what will happen with the missile, if not fly straight into it?
Notch exists…
Perfectly said
I don’t think you understand BVR combat so I’ll leave it here
So, notch isnt part of bvr?) Or what?
Not even close, they tested and it was in practical slower than R77 at even longer ranges like 20+ km, IDK why cause from experience it shouldn’t be, but me and my friend tested it and unfortunately it was not far from the truth, the missile has just a huge dip in performance post sth. like 15km, which is 1st round of AMRAAM starts to approach, if not FK90
Basically, Russian jets past 12.7 just have terrible flight performance, the worst Fox 3’s, and shit radars compared to majority of what they face. The Mig-29’s and Su-27’s not getting flight model buffs yet is laughable.
Doesn’t always work, I have been hit by both FK90 and AMRAAM too many times whilst notching so I just need to get something between, it is sufficient to dodge ultra long range like 20km+ easy, but once inside 16km and with good height notching is inconsistent.
SMT radar is fine, Zhuk is pretty good in fact, so I find it does better than Su27 ironically.
I guess I was a bit harsh, it’s not bad, but like, it doesn’t alleviate the terrible flight performance or terrible Fox 3’s
Skill issue, nothing more.
Are you sure that launches was with same(or pretty close) stats?
Cop out sheep response when you don’t have an argument
Lul, guy cant into notch. With WT RWR and speed gates…
This is an English Forum.
And?
The R-27ER can defeat the AMRAAM only in specific conditions. I’ve done it before, launching R-27ERs up to 70km away and giving AMRAAM carriers no chance to fire.
These days though I don’t do it anymore. The addition of the Radar altimeter sort of re-introduced the ground hugging meta and there aren’t a lot of players that climb high anymore. Which is fine, the Flanker still has R-77s which are still great for closer range engagements.