I know that Otomatic isn’t good, but we’re talking about the 2s38 here, and I think it’s fair to point out the inconsistency that the developers have with the Russian premium vehicle 2s38 in keeping it at a lower BR than vehicles weaker than the 2s38, such as Otomatic… or how they have incorrectly classified the 2S38 just to give it scouting capabilities, even though it is an SPAA.
Furthermore, the 2s38 can also penetrate frontal armour in some cases, but the fact that it can fire continuously without overheating gives it a huge advantage, as it can blind the enemy while disabling the enemy tank (by hitting it in the tracks or barrel) and then destroy it safely.
And there are players who use it comfortably at BR 11.3 because the 2s38 still works well even at that BR, so why isn’t it at BR 11.3? Like the Otomatic? (Rhetorical question) Simply because this vehicle is not balanced, it is simply a “pay to win”… And I’m sure that incompetent players will still get themselves killed in stupid ways and then go and cry to the developers that their precious vehicle isn’t OP enough.
Always better than the “trust me friend” that you say when you want to have a better vehicle than it actually is.
LMAO the only one here who’s delusional is you, keep crying because you can’t win without the crutch, and no the vehicle you mentioned is not comparable to 2s38 make up another excuse, you’re really good at that ;)
It’s true that you can put it at 11.3 and perform just as well if not better in the 2s38. That is true because if you’re competent, the pros of the 2s38 don’t change higher in br, actually they only get more pronounced since flanking is easier as higher br tanks get slower. But complaining about that is like saying (slight over exaggeration) that something like a kv2 should be moved up because if you’re good you can reliably deal with tanks at top tier. Like, yeah, you can do that but it doesn’t mean that it’s overpowered at the br it’s at.
The pointed out inconsistencies are fair, but those are all around the game: Wiesel 1a4 is an spaa but gets scouting (also it shouldn’t even be an spaa), etc. you could make the 2s38 an AA and still give it scouting because some AA’s have that.
I believe this changes constantly and is tied to what RU vehicle in question does better.
Armor = Uhm guys, why do they have better armor than me, it’s unfair.
Firepower/reload = Uhm guys, why do they have better firepower/reload than me, it’s unfair.
Found the delusional pasta main.
T58 is several times more broken than 2S38 ever was, but you’ll ignore that as it doesn’t fit your agenda.
Surely this isn’t worth a +1 increase in BR.
Because the the HSTV-L is very gold but the 2S38 is very doo doo, i hope that helps
HSTV-L has more penetration and better armor.
I guess that extra reload speed is countering everything else.
Gun depression is extremely important for IFVs as you don’t have to expose your whole hull to engage an enemy behind cover. If you have -10 or more you only have to show your turret. If you have -5 you have drive over the hill and show your whole tank
Wikipedia isn’t a source. Neither is advertising features.
SPAA is a feature, not an exclusionary classification.
What a nonsense reply.
2S38 is easily BR 12 and the Terminator is easily BR 13.
I watched them collapse 12.7 matches last night to the point of one more year no subscription for Gaijin.
Kv2 is completely irrelevant to top tier.
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The bias is adding up though.
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11.7 is perfectly defendable though and 11.3 because it’s a premium.
If wikipedia quotes the manufacturers then how is it not a source?
putting those two tanks up in br will literally change nothing. The armour of the bmpt will stay strong whether it is 11.3 or 13.0, its missile will be slightly less strong when trying to penetrate someone, but you can always just overpressure with it and the 30mm will have the exact same performance - you will non-pen what you would’ve non-penned in 11.3 and pen what you would’ve penned at 11.3. And it’s overpowered partly (not fully) because people are not used to facing it and are unsure of what to do against it.
putting the 2s38 to 12.0 would unironically be a buff since it’s good at flanking and tanks at 12.0 are usually slower compared to 10.3/10.7, meaning it’ll be easier to flank.
The only way moving those tanks up in br might be a nerf is because it will face fewer light tanks/IFV’s and on average top tier players are better at dealing with them, but even that isn’t consistently true.
the only way to nerf the bmpt is to remodel the tank and i really don’t see how the 2s38 is overpowered since i’ve never had any issues facing it. It’s only annoying sometimes
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Because it’s been egregiously introduced like the Terminator easily a BR 13 vehicle that is even collapsing 12.7 matches and they put it at 10.7?
It’s ridiculous.
Continuing the discussion from Why the 2S38 is in 10.3 but the HSTV-L is in 12.0:
I didn’t say that though. I said the Terminators are collapsing 12.7 matches.
2S38 could easily be 11.3-7 if Gaijin had integrity but they don’t correct things for years.
The exact reason amongst many I haven’t bought subscription for 3 years running. Nothing works correctly, how many years did it take to just fix laser guided bombs for instance?
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Yes, I’m sure 2S38 is collapsing matches with stats that it currently has.
