I find it hard to believe that gajin thinks its fair for the 2S38 to be a whole 2 tiers below the HSTV-L for it to have the same pen and a faster fire rate.
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It’s almost like there’s more to a vehicle than rate of fire and penetration.
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Oh boy another one of these brilliant threads LMAO
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Because russian bias
This one kinda obvious
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Meanwhile sweden has the strf 9040c with 170 pen, tiny ammo rack, enormous reload times, and no ammo box. and sits at the same br as the 2s38. Hmmm.
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The 2s38 is balanced at 10.3 because it’s gigantic and doesn’t have too much penetration, meaning that it’s mostly good in flanks, but even then it’s often slower than mbt’s at the br. All of this means that the 2s38 is only good if you’re a good player. I know the 2s38 looks brainless to play, but it isn’t because in a 2s38 you need multiple shots to kill someone whereas everyone can one shot you.
The hstvl is 12.0 because it is really small, has ludicrous acceleration and top speed( >30hp/t and 83km/h top speed) and has just about enough penetration to reliably deal with tanks from the front. Meaning that no matter the br where you play the hstvl, it’s gonna be really good because it’s pros don’t change. You could play it at 12.7 and not notice any difference. Also, the armour on the hstvl is weird and you can sometimes bounce shells.
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Mainly because it’s Russian prejudice and it’s a ‘pay to win’ vehicle, which is why they keep it at a low BR (I’m surprised that only the Russians have pay-to-win vehicles). It should at least be at BR 11.3, but then Russian players complain because they need a crutch to win.
LMAO, balanced? No, it’s not. How much are they paying you to defend Russian OP vehicles? OTOMATIC sta a BR 11,3 ed è peggiore sotto ogni aspetto del 2s38
OTOMATIC:
Disadvantages:
- High profile reduces survivability
- Ammunition stored anywhere inside the turret and hull; if hit, you will explode, greatly reducing survivability
- Can only carry 12 APDFSDS shells, so you are unable to pose a threat
Disadvantages:
- Only good at destroying helicopters
2s38:
Disadvantages:
- Nobody
Disadvantages:
- Low profile, high survivability
- Amphibious vehicle, high mobility
- More Faster than the OTOMATIC
- More mobile than the OTOMATIC
- Can perform scouting despite being an SPAA, but Gaijin has classified it as a light vehicle to give it this additional bonus
- Cannon never overheats, can continue firing indefinitely.
- Can target both aircraft and helicopters, as in real life it was designed as an SPAA and in the game it can also perform that role despite being classified as a light vehicle, so the 2s38 can perform scouting.
- It can carry 148 APDFSDS. Enemy vehicles that the 2s38 struggles to penetrate with its frontal armour can be easily neutralised by destroying their tracks and gun barrel with extreme simplicity since his cannon can fire continuously without overheating, allowing you to safely flank the enemy and then destroy it.
Now I bet you’ll use the excuse of greater penetration of OTOMATIC shell, despite the OTOMATIC only having 12 APDFSDS rounds, which makes it totally useless in battle.
Do everyone a favour and just tell the truth: the 2s38 is a “pay to win” vehicle. You will appear more honest instead of saying that 2s38 is ‘balanced’.
I was killed through the turret cheeks of a 2a4 by a level 24
Also typical bad RU gun depression:
Also VERY good gun depression. And HSTV-L has IRST now.
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Gotta stop caring (or even looking) at player levels. They are meaningless.
only 1000 battles won
Huh?
It doesn’t matter. If you really want to stat shame you should look at Thunder Skill or Statshark. But I will share with you and everyone else, that stat shaming is frowned upon by the mods on these forums. It is technically against the rules on the forums, but typically isn’t strongly enforced unless a user is “stat shaming” to be insulting. IF another player gives their approval to post their stats, it’s fair game. And/or if a player posts their own stats, etc.
Point still stands, looking at the level, kills, wins, K/D, Statshark numbers of another player who killed you wastes time. You are better off spawning back in and playing more. The more you dig into another player’s stats, the less time you spend in matches grinding.
I’m not using it in a insulting way though. I was just saying how even low levels who can be possibly new to the game can still get kills with the 2S38. Because you said you needed skill to actually get kills in the 2S38
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Oh that wasn’t me 😉 I do have the 2S38 however, and have been playing since 2014. I pretty much only play Arcade modes, so not much point in using my RB stats as “evidence”. But please feel free to look up my stats for the 2S38 if you wish 👍
https://www.thunderskill.com/en/stat/SilentTracker/vehicles/a#type=army&role=all&country=all
Oh well. Still, the point still stands that I only brought stats into play because of that guys comment
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