why this thing at 10.3. it has No thermals, shit gunner sight, shit armor and 9/10 times gonna face 11.3. Anyone know why its in 10.3
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Agreed, definitely 10.0 material. I’ve always wondered why This and the Turms are the same BR.
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3BM42 I don’t agree that its 10.3 but thats what gajin says
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“Shit armor”?
T-72B (10.3):
-Turret KE: 540
-Hull KE: 540
M1 (10.7):
-Turret KE: 350-400
-Hull KE: 370
Leopard 2A4 (10.7):
-Turret KE: 280-400
-Hull KE: 300
Challenger Mk.3 (10.7):
-Turret KE: 435
-Hull KE: 300
In short: T-72B, at 10.3, already has nearly twice as much armor as all 10.7 MBTs; it’s even better protected than many 11.0, 11.3 and even 11.7s…
The whole point of T-72B3 is that it’s a unique vehicle in its BR range; instead of being a fast and dynamic paper tank with thermals, it’s slower and lacks thermals but it has EXTREME armor protection by comparison.
Is lacking thermals and good dynamics a big downside? Yes.
That is why the thing has nearly twice as much armor as the tanks that have those, is a BR step lower, and also has a significantly better shell as well, giving it better raw firepower.
This tank relies on a different set of strengths to overcome its own set of weaknesses. Pros and cons.
9.3s like Leopard 1A5s are already facing it. Do you really want to make 9.0s like Chieftain Mk.10 or M60A3 face it too now…?
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it is fine at 10.3, sure the 89 is the same br with kontak 5, but at the end of the day it doesnt make that much of a difference against what you fight against, these br ranges are still quite compressed which doesnt help it either but it still does fine at 10.3 and i dont think that the TTS, type 74 and other 9.0 can put much of a fight against it
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Because it barely works based on the record, most players barely managed to kill more than one enemy before they die lol that number tells you something about its overall survivability, it has no gun depression and reverse speed to get out of trouble, it has to expose its entire vehicle hitbox to engage the enemy, the lfp doesn’t stop anything from even the lesser M735, the ufp however is strong, the optical zoom is also crap for some reason which makes it struggle at engaging long range targets, imagine having the lines in your scope thicker than the entire enemy tank lol the armor trade off for the speed and dogshit gun handling isn’t worth it, also it dies like everything else getting shot through the idler wheel, there is no armor there bro
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I’m ok with fighting 10.3 but there’s no 10.3 tank lineups in other nations. So it always gonna see 10.7+(9/10 11.3 for me)
yeah but armor dosen’t matter if anything can pen it from front
I don’t know where you’re getting this number from, unless you’re shooting so far to the side of the turret that it’s hitting the turret side armor.
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I meant 400, mistyped because I had just woken up hahah, thanks for pointing out, fixed!
Only armor ? Now compare it mobility and gun handling , also reload rate. All you do is cherry picking
This is just outright wrong
Pro is barely making up for it con , it is a MBT. It supposed to be versatile, not having one good point and call it a day. It is not as good as you making it out to be , especially compare to it peer or even 9.3 vehicle that it meet
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I have the t80ud, from what I can tell it’s pretty similar. These 2 tanks suffer from heavy tank syndrome at a tier where heavy tanks aren’t a thing. That is, your armor absolutely does work in a downtier, but ya 10.7+ tanks are going to cleave through you like butter. Downtiers in the t80ud is probably the most fun I’ve had at 10.x, but ya those just don’t happen because of premium black holes sucking everything up/down to 10.7/3.
I don’t understand the appeal of russian tanks anymore, in a game with a 3rd person camera sitting behind cover/hill abusing said camera, peeking shooting and reversing seems way too strong because of the camera in the game. Terrible depression, reverse, truly dreadful verticle targeting really hinders this playstyle, not to mention map hacks a mechanic (scouting) getting you killed when you peek. The closer and closer engagements we get from these maps means the likely hood of sub 400m or so shots are the majority, which means going for weakpoints is incredibly easy on stationary targets so even if you had Stalinium armor, your breach and LFP are still going to be easily targeted and hit.
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Consider this, armour wise the T72B is vastly superior to other 10.3 tanks like the Challengers, the Abrams, the Leopard 2a4, and even some 11.7 tanks. For that, you trade off thermals. You have good enough optics (if it works for the TTD it works for the T72B). And every other problem you list is a doctrine issue. And any case of bad gun depression, or poor reverse speed is an issue with the player not the vehicle. The T72B is not at fault if you peek a ridge you shouldn’t.
Let me be clear, if the doctrine of the tank makes it bad in WT, it should not be at a br where it is not competitive. However, the T72B is plenty competitive when you consider that the trade off you give away for an amazing platform is only matched by a premium (which you should expect to be undertiered) you are simply stating something that is false.
The T72B is a viable platform. Good armour (L27A1, M829A1, DM33, and even DM53 can struggle to pen), okay mobility (except in reverse), good firepower, and a slow but competitive reload. The T72B should not go down, further compressing the game. Rather, other tanks that vastly outperform it that consistently face it should go up.
T-72B 1989 does… T-72B is easily pennable.
This makes exactly zero sense.
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You do realize that what makes NATO tanks better is their ability to do this in the first place, right?
The T-72B is good at 2 things. UFP armor, and a good round. Not amazing, like M900, DM33 or 3BM60 which are at this BR, but still good.
Every other quality about this vehicle is either mediocre or bad. Terrible gun handling, bad optics, no thermals, terrible reverse, bad forward speed, long reload, and bad survivability.
The only thing keeping it at 10.3 is 3BM42, otherwise it would be 10.0 or even 9.7.
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bruh what are u talking man
TTD has a thermal sight
even DM33 can pen it from front
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I can understand why this is an issue that would hinder a vehicle performance that you wouldn’t understand, due to the vehicle limitations there ain’t many ways to play them, seeing how British vehicles filled all three pages in your record.
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Its simply a mediocre tank. Like most of the T-64/72/80/90 series, it shares the same obvious weakspots (breach, drivers port, and LFP) from 9.3. The armor it does have is only useful against unfamiliar players or panic shots, otherwise it usually dies or is heavily crippled in one well-placed shot.
In a bracket where speed is king, the T-72B’s are probably some of the slowest, and its not just in mobility. Gun handling is also atrocious, especially with the vertical drive speeds, and mediocre gun depression.
3BM42 is quite a good round at this BR. Though, why wouldn’t I just use a 2S25M? It’s a lower BR (granted without much armor) but has 3BM60, 3rd generation CITV, a very fast reverse and good power to weight ratio, and in some cases superior gun handling.
T-90A also shares the same issues as the T-72B, id argue its even worse given that its 11.0 with such awful mobility and gun handling.
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PS: the best way to get someone to ignore your point is by being snippy in the response.
You can disagree all you want. But when you make fun of someone they will always ignore what they say. Which is what I’m doing now.
The T72B is perfectly fine at its br, it has good qualities that balance out the bad, and bad performance with it is a skill issue.
:3
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