The QF-17 has 90m/s higher muzzle velocity too, that make compensation for lead and drop easier.
That’s true, but again, do you really think that’s worth it?
Hold on… you think people play a nation for one specific vehicle? At low tier?
IF the two vehicles were in the same nation I could see where you are coming from.
But they are not.
That’s like asking “why play an IS-1 when you could play a Tiger H?”
Because people want to try the entire Tech Tree of that nation.
(on a side note, dropping the m10 down to 3.3 may be not that much of an advantage. Not a lot of 3.3 USA vehicles to play it with. You’d have to drop the m24 and use the M5A1 for a light tank)
Personally yeah, more reliably hitting and disabling with the 1st shot is more useful than a faster re-fire if I miss completely and extra 1 or 2 secs on the reload doesn’t hurt when they can’t shoot back. And OHK potential is also pointless if you miss or bounce.
I get where you’re coming from, so let me rephrase it:
Why is the M10 the same BR as the Achilles, especially after they both got moved down in BR (190mm pen becomes even more overkill) and the M10 had gotten a 5s reload buff (from 5.9s)?
I guess people prefer higher velocity solid shot than 5s reload 60g TNT equivalent APHE…
Why were people complaining about unrealistic APHE 😅
Achillies as mentioned has better pen and better optics. The .50 cal also has better vertical guidance making it easier to hit air units.
Also, the muzzle velocity of the Shot. Mk 8 is greater than that of the m62. So the Achillies, with it’s better optics would be significantly better at long range.
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Better pen is irrelevant for the most part, like I said before.
The better optics is arguable since the Achilles’ optics are better suited for long ranges while the M10’s is better suited for closer ranges.
That being said, the Achilles and M10 should be playing at longer ranges (because of the abysmal turret rotation speed), so I will give it that.
The 50.cal placement is better on the Achilles, that is also true.
Even if you don’t think the M10 should go up to 3.7, I assume you would be fine with it getting a 5.5s / 5.9s reload buff?
Why not both ? Look, AP is not a really big deal for me. You need to aim at racks anyways.
If you are trying to brawl in the m10, good luck. Both have terrible turret rotation, so the farther you are from your target the better - for BOTH.
You might think the achillies pen is overkill but…
- What you see on paper is never the same as what you see in battle. You will have more bounces due to angling on the m10 than you will on the Achillies.
One has much greater killing potential.
It’s why people complain about nuke APHE and not lol-pen AP. The 5s reload over the 6.7s reload is a huge difference too
Already said that you’re correct in that sense…
I mean sure, you could penetrate higher angles of things like the KV-1, but it’s not like you can’t just shoot the breech or ufp in most cases.
The Shot Mk.8 still has the same angle ricochet probabilities as the M62 shot too.
I guess I speak for the majority then?
I would not presume to know what other people think or prefer, but given the fact that most of the player base voted against realistic APHE I suppose so.
The vote was sadly botted. Within the first few hours it was majority for the APHE nerf, and then all of a sudden tons of votes just came outta nowhere for “no.”
Most content creators were against the change and so they made videos taking about it, and so their fans started to vote too.
You’re repeating yourself even tho I am giving you the basic explanation. There’s no longer a point for explaining that to you.
I mean, I can’t really understand why 5s APHE wouldn’t be more favoured, since there is a difference in their general performance, but sure.
If you’re fine with a much longer reload and no explosive filler for that extra muzzle velocity, better sight, and 40mm extra pen then be my guest.
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No.