But you’re sharing the same battlefield as ground targets and you’re bound to get pushed at some point.
They should both be 11.3.
You ignoring the clear differences at AT work is foolish to say the least.
Wake up buddy, you aren’t sitting in a bubble that magically defends you from ground units.
this statement would only make sense if the adats was even good at killing tanks in the fist place, its not, even at 11.0 if an mbt wants you dead and your in an adats your dead the AAs role isnt to stop a spawn push if your relying on AA for that yor already lost the game, its the defend your team from planes in the mid game.
I’d say the Strela could be comfortably at 10.7.
The Osa is better than the Flarakpanzer / XM975, however.
Still the same BR though, for some reason.
I only tested it in assault mode and hadn’t even taken it out in grb already can feel it is horrible, the missile is way too slow and even takes some effort to hit an AI plane that flies straight, sometimes even missed! also the smoke trail is so thiccc that I think CAS could see it from planet mars, just back up to a slope you might have a better chance at killing enemy tanks than hitting a plane lol
ADATS can kill tanks and defend itself.
Type 81 can’t kill any tank in the game.
You can kill MBTs and they certainly aren’t the only type of vehicle that is getting spawned during a game.
Defending yourself from an enemy means you’ll be able to provide cover from the air for longer, as logically, you can’t provide cover when you’re dead.
its not a question as to if the adats can kill tanks or not its a question of what br its effectiveness at both deserve and at 11.0 it would not be op in any way.
i am fan of variety and glad that osa and strela came to the german tree. they should fix the roland but even if it was fixed id still want osa here. we know who operated them.
wouldnt mind seeing the wheeled variant
Dude the OSA is like top 3 10.3 SPAA
So, essentially it’s Osa or nothing for SPAA. Not because Gaijin is greedy or evil or something but because they have a limited amount of time and manpower for development. The options are either one vehicle in many trees or one vehicle in one tree, with the other trees receiving nothing.
Interestingly it always seems that people only disapprove of copy-paste after it is added. The Osa is a perfect example, with the Indian one only coming after mass demands from British mains when the Soviet/German/Romanian ones were revealed.
Being able to kill any tank in the game vs being able to kill nothing is a big advantage, especially on our cramped maps.
Those two should be at the same BR which is higher than the BR TOR sits at as they’re definitely better.
Though I’ve never understood why the ADATS is considered all that good of a TD. Whenever I’ve found myself in a position to actually shoot at a tank, it’s taken 2 or 3 missiles to kill and it’s so slow and has such bad firing angles that to use it offensively is near suicide.
I’ve seen Pantsirs and 2S6s kill MBTs. I’ve killed MBTs with the Stormer HVM, but none have a BR influenced by their self defence abilities. Given most that flank to attack SPAA are light tanks, most easily killed by anything with a gun, I would still argue the 2S6 has the greater self defence performance over the British ADATS at the very least
Meanwhile Roland is at 10.3
No one should be using ADATS offensively in most situations, but it definitely can defend itself better than most other higher tier AAs.
If it can kill MBTs from any angle, I’d say it’s good enough.
ZSU-57-2 is a nice example of how AT ability can mess with AA’s BR placement. Without those strong AP shells, ZSU-57-2 would be much, much lower than it currently is. Same deal with Falcon.
Tunguska’s ammo is on par with Gepard’s main belt, so it can get the job done but mostly from the clean side shots.
MBTs actually surpass most lights in terms of mobility at higher tiers, so I’m sure they’ll flank as well.
UK ADATS definitely is the worst of the trio as it has to waste missiles to defend itself.
It was a good TD when it released and the scariest thing was like a T-80U… most modern MBTs won’t even get penetrated
Buffed*
They have their 22G pull on the Stingers?
Their G pulled rn is accurate. Their seeker, however, is more sensitive than its supposed to be, and they have longer range than IRL.
There are a load of bug reports that would say otherwise
And Gajin is smart enough to reject them. Repeating the same lie over and over doesn’t make it right.
What lie? Multiple primary sources confirm they are underperforming. If stingers are overperforming then IGLAs need their G pull halved
