Why Osa is so bad

i agree that the adats is in fact better than the 2s6 but i still think 11.0 is where it belongs. it is 100% the most overtired AA in the game and its current br feels like a joke, i think people bring up Russian AA so much because they seem to be placed at brs where they can actually be effective instead of being put at a brs where they cant compete at all like the roland at 10.3 for example compared to the osa or strela or even stingers.

Maybe the UK one, not the US.

Roland was decent before the nerf but they forgot to change it’s BR after that.
Some people have problems with vehicles in the USSR tree being effective.

the US 1 having a gun isnt a big enough change for it to be a higher br than the UK 1 considering the UK adats gets better vertical targeting for planes trying to climb over you.

Then both should go to 11.3.

lemme guess its the “but they can shoot at tanks bla bla bla” reasoning as to why they cant be 11.0

It’s definitely something that should be taken into consideration.
ADATS being lower than Type 81 seems weird to me.

i think that should never have gone up to 11.3 in the first place, but dont get it twisted the type 81 is the most lethal AA in the game sub 10km not even the pantsir sub 10km is as good as that thing at hitting fast moving targets. id take a type 81 over the adats any day of the week.

not at any br past 10.3 a non tandam missile with only 800mm of pen is pretty much trash anywhere above 10.3

That thing is really amazing for planes that are 6-7km away.

Depends what are you shooting at to be honest.
Helicopters or drones are easier to take down with ADATS.

Type 81 has also no means of defending itself, so being pushed by anything is your certain demise.

It has 900mm of penetration and will kill any tank in the game.
US variant also has APDS for softer targets.

Having both of those is much better than having absolutely nothing.

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Ok but it’s still miles better than anything near its BR

idk why you think this matters, they can still make bad decisions regarding western vs eastern equipment

at its current br is terrible at both, id rather it be usable in both or even a little strong at 11.0 than be worthless at 11.7

Osa literally is better at medium-long ranges.

Because it’s obvious they’re copy-pasting stuff to reduce work hours and expenses ?

At least you have some ways of defending yourself from the ground.
Against planes ADATS is worse than Type 81 but it edges out against helicopters and drones.

I do think those two could share the same BR.

Ok? overall the 2S6 is still far superior

so?

Okay, that’s why it’s higher in BR ?

To the things even near its BR, it is superior. It is far closer to a 11.7 SPAA than a 10.3 one

i dont spawn an AA in to defend myself against ground targets my guy and the type 81 being better vs planes and the Adats being better vs drone and helis is why they should both be 11.0

No it isn’t.

Ok.