@Morvran 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
He alredy did with a10C, with ef radar, with tornado vs mig 29, with harrier vs mig 23
Mig-21Bison 12.3
HMD + r-73
its useful for the radar and 27ET too
and the mig-21bison has a more reliable radar than the Su-27 and it also gets the 27T
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Not really, you can do everything with acm aswell
We’ve already had Su-27 as best SAR-H carrier vs Gripen, F-15A, etc.
It consistently lost due to flight model and multipath. Now there are even more planes with turbo flight model like F-2A and more planes with ARH. Multipath is lower but also most players prefer flat maps and most fights start in same way as they used to.
Su-27 would be strong 13.0 in current day but I doubt it would be stronger than Gripen, F2A, etc.
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SPO-15 isn’t that terrible, and I highly doubt the Su-33 has an unsable FM.
Please try again and justify why the Su-27/33 deserve to be 13.0, especially when compared to other 13.0 planes.
Once again, they are not. The radar is bad, but it’s not useless, and SPO-15 is good enough. The Su-33 also has a good digital RWR too.
Then move those up instead of making 13.0 as compressed as it is air RB.
Literally everyone here is begging for more BR compression because their planes aren’t dominating and it’s infuriating. What on earth makes the Su-27/33 equal to the Mig-29G, Viggen DI, Harriers, or the F-16s?
it is currently bugged and dosent give CW warnings anymore everything is a pulse launch warning currently making it impossible to know if a Fox-1 or Fox-3 was fired at you, which makes it significantly worse than anything else at the BR (even without it being bugged it is way worse)
if you have anyone that is smarter than just monkey pulling in a dogfight, he has pretty high chances to win
as it stands at 13.0 there is the F-15A and 12.7 is the F-16A which can easily win any dogfight and then there are the hornets as well which can also put up a good fight (and this is still ignoring the Gripen and F-2)
that is true, it can still ocasionally be used to IFF someone
as it stands i dont see why the Su-27S should be 13.3 with stuff like the Jf-17 or Su-34 being at the same BR while they are getting better avionics and Fox-3 missiles
The fact those planes have ARH missiles or better flight models?
With the exception of 29G.
And there is no 13.3 sim bracket.
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why are you ignoring the fact that the f-2 or grippy already exist at those brs?
Definitely
Then ask for one.
Learn about asymmetric balance. The harriers and viggens have ARH missiles but poor flight models/avionics for the BR, while the F-16s have a decent radar, good RWR, good FM, but a poor loadout.
@kizvy because those should be 13.3 along side the flankers.
And how wouldn’t the Flanker not fit into asymmetric balance at 13.0
Good missile load but worse avionics and flight performance than it’s peers
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People have been asking for one for over a year.
The French F-16A does not have poor load out and neither does the Gripen, F2A, or F-15A.
Su-27 would have stronger load out and weaker flight model than those. But also have stronger flight model and weaker missiles than ARH mobiles.
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A-10C too lol
For the sake of this argument, aircraft at 12.7 and 13.0 have Aim-9Ms which are vastly broken in sim especially, often giving you free kills with no adverse effects.
Not only that, non USSR aircraft typically have triple the cms of USSR aircraft
“short and LONG range missiles”