Why Multipassing Should Be Removed Immediately

[TIGER_TANK_1]

It doesn’t “work too well”. Nerfing it would make the game unplayable for the super compressed tiers.

Can you imagine playing bad RWR planes like MiG-21BIS and not having multipathing?

Likewise, planes with non PD radars, worse, some even lack CW SARHs, would be unplayable as well. Can you imagine F-4E fighting MiG-21 Bison, F-20A without MPing?

Go high, get ground clutters. Go low, get chaffed and lose track because your radar is not PD.

Mirage F1C-200 a plane which relies on side shots/ambushes, likewise, would also be unplayable because it will have no defense whatsoever against the likes of F-15A, Kfir C10, F-4 ICE, Ja37DI, MiG-29, Su-27.

[Morvran]

@TIGER_TANK_1

Mirage F1C-200 a plane which relies on side shots/ambushes, likewise, would also be unplayable because it will have no defense whatsoever against the likes of F-15A, Kfir C10, F-4 ICE, Ja37DI, MiG-29, Su-27.

Never had an issue myself

[TIGER_TANK_1]

Yeah because you can just multipath all the times right now. But if that was removed it wouldn’t have this option and would have to go cold all the times or would stay even longer doing the notch

[Morvran]

Rarely, I use the Phimat

[TIGER_TANK_1]

Gaijin would need to add chaff pods to more planes to compensate for this, and simulate EW like the EW pods on the mig 21bis

[Morvran]

@magazine2

There are also several modern air warfare technologies that can enrich gameplay that have not yet been implemented in War Thunder.

Sounds like they are already working on that. But ultimately MP still needs to be reduced further and I have no issue on any aircraft I play at the moment relying on notching and chaff for defence rather than MP.

[Zulizia]

Chaff is not stock, and is not as effective in game. Certain fighters like the Gripen rely on Multipath because it doesn’t have the raw energy that the other jets have. Not to mention that we’re also talking about lower tiers. The Phantoms with Sparrows would be insanely oppressive and destroy pretty much any jet without Fox-1s, as they can launch one at you, and fly at you at Mach-stupid while you can’t even fight back aa you’re too busy bleeding all of your speed to notch it

Not to mention some jets just have horrific RWRs, or non-PD radars.

[WARTURTLE09]

@Elijah1573

how poor their seekers are compared other games like Nuclear Option or VTOL VR or DCS where notching missiles are an actual challenge

Neither dcs nor vtol vr have iog or angle gating. Dcs notching seems harder bc countermeasures in dcs are based on chance lmao.

[Morvran]

@Zulizia

Chaff is not stock

Easily remedied, though dictating the entirity of high BR gameplay around the first mod you usually unlock just seems wierd to me.

@Zulizia

Certain fighters like the Gripen rely on Multipath because it doesn’t have the raw energy that the other jets have

Hu? What?

I notch and chaff in the Tonkas all the time How does the Gripen lack in FM?

@Zulizia

The Phantoms with Sparrows would be insanely oppressive and destroy pretty much any jet without Fox-1s, as they can launch one at you, and fly at you at Mach-stupid while you can’t even fight back aa you’re too busy bleeding all of your speed to notch it

Not really. If they are smart, they can already mitigate MP. I do it all the time in the F3 by flying at 10k ft and shooting down. Funny watching people just fly in a straight line and eat my missile.

@Zulizia

Not to mention some jets just have horrific RWRs, or non-PD radars.

Again, not really that big of an issue. If aircraft like the F-104S ASA can be at 12.0 with a terrible RWR, then most aircraft shouldnt really be that big of a problem. Sure, it might result in some BRs being tweaked, but not by much and the game would be healthier for it

Besides, you had aircraft with PD radar long before MP was added and no one complained then about it being OP from what I saw

[Zulizia]

@Morvran_

but not by much and the game would be healthier for it

The game would be healthier by completely removing Multipath? Yes it needs to be adjusted to fit reality, but completely removing it is a different story.

[Morvran]

Removed no. Reduced to IRL levels yes. But that would still be like >33m for missiles like Skyflash.

[ComradeKot]

this is the single most delusional take and player ive ever seen

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

@kitsune_qq

why would they? cant they adapt for better gameplay?

Please show me how you reliably notch missiles in ARB without sitting in the backlines.

[WARTURTLE09]

@Morvran_

How does the Gripen lack in FM?

bad energy production and low twr makes it lose alot of energy while notching and it takes a while to get it back. Its definetly not bad but it is kinda worse compared to the others

[WARTURTLE09]

@Ghost_of_TelAviv

Please show me how you reliably notch missiles in ARB without sitting in the backlines.

Notch angle->chaff chaff chaff->missile goes into iog-> you change direction

[Ghost_of_TelAviv]

@WARTURTLE09

Notch angle->chaff chaff chaff->missile goes into iog-> you change direction

Yea, show me how you do it in the chaos that ARB is. There is no way they will do this.
And you wont show me because it wont work 80% of the time, unless you sit in the back at high altitude.

[ComradeKot]

nah thats just a skill issue on your end sorry bud

[Morvran]

Anyone good at the game will already know how to mitigate MP either by manually lofting a missile fired at lower alt or not flying low.

I rarely ever sit low enough to use MP and usually then only in a ground attacker.

My average alt these days in a fighter, even one as weak as notching as a Tonka, is 10k ft

[WARTURTLE09]

@Ghost_of_TelAviv

And you wont show me because it wont work 80% of the time, unless you sit in the back at high altitude.

clearly works for me despite me being relatively bad at the game. I suggest watch videos to learn how to notch.

[WARTURTLE09]

@Ghost_of_TelAviv

unless you sit in the back at high altitude.

also whats wrong with this ? Thats the the best position to be in at top tier