Dude, Again, I still have no idea why you think that there is no evidence, have you ever tried to count the comments that mentioned specific vehicles?
You keep trying to accuse me of having no evidence, the evidence is very clear, 3000 comments, you can count for yourself how many have been taken up, I’m not an expert on words, if you think there is something wrong with my statements you can make suggestions instead of accusing me of acting like an insider based on my statements, which no one suspects except for you
Ah, A play on words. you just blame me for the word ignore, or we can use another way to describe this situation, they don’t care about these comments.
Also, there is no evidence to prove they have under consideration, especially for those comments that have many players agree, no feedback, no response, just close the topics, maybe you are right, not ignore, just don’t care, It’s reasonable doubt, not a game of detective.
Sorry but thats is a stupid excuse. You can find exaclty the same in the last BR update and Gaijin added over 100 BR. changes only for GF.
Is not a secret Gaijin is more and more focused in Top Tier aka 60 euros zone and ignoring and abandoning mid/ low ranks.
Regarding changes to vehicle battle ratings and Gaijin allegedly ignoring them.
Just because someone complains, doesn’t mean there is an actual issue or problem that needs to addressed
Most of the BR suggestions are based on how an individual player feels when playing a certain vehicle, not based on the vehicles actual performance when considering the wider player population.
2.1 Most players suggesting changes based on feelings fail to consider their experience with respect to the rest of the population
When suggestions aren’t based around feelings, players most often try and develop a case for BR change based on the given vehicle’s characteristics, as opposed to the statistical performance of the player population (which is at least how I understand Gaijin justifies the changes)
When a member of the forums presents a reasonable well argued case with evidence, that is also supported by the experiences of many or most of the players, Gaijin listens.
I’m glad Gaijin doesn’t pay much attention to player suggestions, because most of the stuff we suggest is shit.
There was alot of bad takes in the BR changes thread, but also some reasonable ones.
Why would Gaijin not move the 11.7 Tornados to 11.3 despite them being identical in ARB?
Why should the F-104s remain at the current BR despite getting a huge nerf, which means they are outclassed by stuff at their own BR?
And why should the J-7D remain undertiered?
Those are all reasonable changes to ask for, and gaijin didn’t deliver.
That’s the issue, if you have checked the plan topic, you can find the comments that were liked over 20 by other players, most of them didn’t show up in the final result.(I have suggested the R2Y2 back to 7.7-7.3, but seems not)
Of course, some of them might be considered, like F14A(Iran) or f4c, but it doesn’t prove that all of the comments were seriously considered, especially for those low-tier vehicles
The reads with a bit of entitlement. I know what you mean when you say reasonable, basically if its a fair suggestion it should be implemented.
To be a bit semantic and focus on the word reasonable.
Gaijin needs incentive before the effect a change. Game developers aren’t staffed and run like a retail outlet where you have a bunch of people sitting around waiting for shit to do.
Each additional vehicle, feature, change, revision are all elements that need a good proposal to be considered and a strong incentive to be actioned.
A reasonable suggestion is worth discussing in the forums but by no means justifies an action. I mean lets use roads as an example, and discuss a bit of asset management.
Players complaining about a vehicle BR in war thunder is basically the same as complaining to your city council about a pot hole in your culdesac. The issue seems like a big deal because it affects you and the people in your street, and you’s all have to look it and drive around it, and its slowly vetting worse each time it rains. When in reality its a tiny issue that affects a very limited number of people and doesn’t warrant a special intervention and can wait to be addressed in routine maintenance.
War Thunder isn’t a community mod for Fallout New Vegas, the development isn’t a collaborative process. There are specific occasions where player feedback is requested and when the community members make suggestions in accordance with the guidelines set out, there is a review and feedback process.
Most of the BR changes I see people referring to are made here in the General Discussion section of the Forums, not in the ‘Suggestion’ section of the forums. Here in general discussion, there’s little to no framework or guidelines for the formulation of a thread. In the suggestions section of the forum, threads aren’t published until they’re reviewed and determined to have met the minimum requirements in terms of content and formatting.
The topics discussed here might as well be drunken scribbles on a napkin.
And it requires players follow the rules( but some of the players ignore that), basically, it asks players for suggestions and sends to developers, unlike the general discussion.
The thing is that if they ask for it then why not give their feedback and consider a few popular one
like m26 for example, it doesnt belong in 6.7 or VIDAR being at 8.0 when it could even move up to 9.0 and be fine
or PZH2000 which is basically worse armor, better reload VIDAR and its 7.7
If you have checked what they did before, you might not think about that, at least they will explain some vehicles BR change reasons to show that they are considering, unlike this time, no more change, just close the topics, now I pretty doubt that if there is necessary for such kind of topics, they can do what they want without players.