Lord have mercy, I’ve started naval on War Thunder with the all-powerful French naval army. I’ve reached 4.7, I launched a game and suddenly I saw the enemy in the distance, and a majestic missile directed at my sweet new player’s ass. My new boat, freshly out of the garage, got erased from existence in one single strike. Please, for the love of War Thunder, delete those missiles.
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I’m sorry to ear this zephyr
I told months ago that those missile are really game breaker.
Those missiles are AA proximity and should detonate before the ship OR do not be able to shot ANY ships.
Why are they at 5.3 while players are just “new born” and tries to have fun ?
After, gaijin do not understand why players do not play navy … There a reason ?
You cannot counter those missiles exept if you have a missile boat too.
But there are only 3 nation that have missiles like this. German, US and USSR.
To balance it there are many way.
- Remove ability to aim ships with missiles and add radar as like new anti air.
- Missiles are exploding before ships
- Increase missile boats BR like 8.7 (not the best, but they are post war)
- Remove missile boats
- Add a lobby only for them and DO NOT add them in naval EC.
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Apologies new player yet missile armed ships have been here since 2020 an only gotten more readily available over being locked to high rank grinding.
Unfortunately, they’ll not delete anything unless it’s to terrible to use if it’s reserve, NF example: Town class (1940) Destroyer HMS Churchill I45 was removed original in 2020 but can be unlocked again after reaching GB Rank II.
Yet if something is powerful it just gets nerfed in BR or amour/ armament changes or mechanics added to mainly screw it over yet screw everything else over as well looking at you Battleship Scharnhorst.
But there are counters some passive while others aggressive.
• turn away & screen smoke (passive), obscures target making precise aim impossible
• manoeuvre to an angle or way that your magazines are not exposed as most SAM’s only have 60 mm of pen, so if don’t well you can foul their attacks (passive), sidenote I forget how much pen the Nettuno AShM has so watch of for the Freccia class Motoconvertibili Saetta P-494.
• Fire your armament in the direction of an incoming missile, can be any weapon especially LAA (aggressive), after the munition interception update last year, all airborne munitions can be shot down.
• Launch rocket assisted depth charges if you’ve got them, they can act as a barrier against an incoming one (aggressive), for france only really helpful for the premium E50 or GL with hedgehog mortars.
Sadly the french first missile boat is a La Combattante I class motor boat & even then they’re SS.11 ATGM’s (wish they were the AS.12’s of the late life version) an those are terrible with the 40 mm/60 outtranging them.
Current list of missile armed vessels:
USN:
• USS Douglas PGM-100, annoyingly a premium, has four missiles, RIM-24A
• USS Charles F. Adams DDG-2, easy to research after economic reductions, has forty-two missiles with a dual launcher, RIM-24A
Ger:
• Lütjens DDG-28, basically above but different yet single launcher & same amount of missiles. RIM-24A
• Bernau 343, has twelve Fasta-2M (DDR designation of the Strela-2M)
USSR:
• Bravy 650, eighteen S-125 (V-660P) & a dual mount
• MPK-33, has twenty-two 9M33 OSA missiles, dual mount
ITA:
• Saetta P-494, five Nettuno AShM in one mount (not to be confused with the upcoming Destroyer Saetta)
FR:
• La Combattante I class motor boat with four SS.11’s in a gaming chair mount.
(Niche)
JPN:
• Ki-48-II, one Ki-148 I-Go air launched AShM
I personally don’t like using SAM’s against ships unless they give a perfect silhouette or they’ve challenged me in cqc, yet the masses use them willy nilly against all ships & often forget they’ve got gun armament strangely or don’t even fire upon aircraft, hell I watched a USS Charles F. Adams DDG-2 get bombed by a PB4Y-2 a month ago since they used up all their SAM’s against CA’s an idk what happened with their main guns as they’re radar directed & have HE-VT shells yet missed completely.
The only ships that must are La Combattante & Saetta due to one an ATGM the other thr only true AShM.
Bomb, you can counter missiles without missiles, that was changed last year & even Light AA can destroy them, heh even depth charges can counter them.
Even before & with then the few missile armed ships new players have always been screwed due to compression as CA’s were often at 5.3 or 4.7, likewise most missile armed vessels are those BR’s as well.
Although the Douglas is a bigger thread to newer players even if an Asheville class PGM.
Unfortunately that way of thinking is foolish as than people will ask for everything post 1945 to be at those BR, this can be argued of what of a US Nasty class, would it be forced to be 8.7 due to being from 1968? Would you see a La Combattante or Bernau 8.7? I know those are missiles yet are pretty piss poor ones at that.
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Osa and Strela are IR SAM,and you cant fire them on ships.
Strela yes (although it was a current full list of all missiles one can see that are shipborne, heh imagine OP seeing a Ki-148 I-Go, they’ll shit bricks).
But the OSA no, you can control them via SACLOS, same for both in GF & NF.