maybe he has some knowledge regarding these two pieces on Stryker’s hull he showed, but I can’t find anything regarding Strykers using Trophy APS, only some text about Iron Curtain in wiki. But how is Stryker’s model related to Abrams lacking Trophy - no idea. It’s an obvious offtop
Not sure how old some of you are but the first system the Stryker had utilized those modules, they were even put into MW2 in the mission where you had a Stryker https://youtu.be/HMQIm2NIHNo?t=45
You have to search way back to 2007-ish for those because that’s when the Stryker had the APS modules on them. That’s just how old it is.
i worded it wrong. any ways those circles on the stryker were where the APS modules were, its something that has always annoyed me whenever i looked at the in-game model.
the m1a2 sep v2 was a add on to the side of the turret. some of the m1a2s had multiple APS systems. Which is something i keep trying to figure out why drones are such a problem now like in ukraine. These systems could blow drones out of the sky with ease.
both the Abrams , Stryker and Bradley could use the Trophy system and the Iron Fist APS systems for some unknown reason the army said no to the trophy system and went back to the iron fist for the Bradley
Those are extractor fan vent covers. Nothing to do with APS
dont even know which tank you are referring to, and if its the stryker, then you are wrong.
Nah, it is definitely an extractor fan on Stryker.
It’s on all Stryker variants from the ICV to the MGS the only thing that changes is the position. You can see the interior fan below the position of these covers on every Stryker
The front one behind the driver is part of the CBRN filtration system, and is on all LAV variants even LAV-25 and Canadian LAV-IIIs
i.e. naught to do with APS installation.
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Love it, definitly not saw that coming lmao xD
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sth sth mw 2 sources seriously?
sth sth modern sources stating otherwise
No Viable Active Protection System Solution for US Army Stryker Vehicles: Official
not to mention how da12thmonkey was able to pove your wrong , they are fans / filtration lmao
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A screenshot of an MW2 cutscene.
Lmao.
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lmao brotha XDDD
sartt have you tried to google for sources that isnt a videogame?
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Well it could also be the AN/VLQ-12 (V) “CREW-Duke” System, counts at least as a soft-kill, APS.
In addition to the prior AN/VLQ-6 & -8 / -8A.
Also LWS systems tend to be AN/(A/V)VR-XX, like the VVR-1 mounted to the Bradley and others.
Like the Abrams. (probably introduced with either the SEP, or -v2 configurations)
ISR Systems’ AN/VVR-1 laser warning system has been tested and incorporated on vehicles such as M-1 Abrams tank and the M-2 Bradley Fighting Vehicle. This was improved with the subsequent AN/VVR-2 version that incorporated a single, mast-mounted sensor, and again with AN/VVR-3 which added a beam-rider detection capability.
Hmm that is interesting.
I found a mention of the AN/VVR-1 plan for implement after testing in FY99 was dependent on funding though.
Haven’t seen anything related to the Abrams receiving it though. Maybe it didn’t?
Video I found on LWS for the Bradly and Abrams probably a v2 but it also mentions it's integration with smoke deployment system.
The detectors in the video ( at; 1:16 ) are the AN/VVR-4 and likely also has 3D (directional) audio warnings.
Also automated deployment systems were investigated in the '90’s and are touched on in the following report;
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA339744.pdf#page=22
Also the mentioned symposium from '99 can be found;
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well he posted a video of COD mw 2 with a hard kill APS system, not to mention how doft kill systems are relatively useless in war thunder at high tier and wouldnt help much
So i wouldnt believe the excuse if that guy said he meaned soft kill systems
the guy isn’t entirely wrong. the SEPv2 was used to test the iron curtain trophy system to see if it was viable for the SEPv3 before the v3 went into production. obviously it was proven to be viable as it’s installed from factory on the v3. due to the testing and eventual integration, all SEPv2 tanks are being upgraded with the iron curtain overtime.
as for the stryker and bradley. the stryker platform can use (and some do) the iron fist trophy system (the same one found on the black night already in game). it also can be found on the M2 bradley, not the M3 from what i could find, but i’d imagine the M3 is just as capable of using it.
so, end of the day, the SEPv2 at the very least should get its trophy system as an unlockable modification in game, especially since i think we all know the SEPv3 isn’t being added anytime soon. it would at least make the tank kinda worth playing.
nobody is fighting the bradley or abrams part
but he is spotting nonsense mostly either wqay
please go ahead and provide sources
https://thedefensepost.com/2023/12/19/active-protection-system-stryker
yeah nah aint how its done in war thunder bad luck better luck next time, its not an in service uprade, meaning it would come as event / premium more likely in that case
u gotta wait until later variants just get added
you act as though gaijin hasn’t added modifications to vehicles years later. and considering the upgrades started back in, iirc, 2020, i’d say it is very much in service.
so your source for the stryker being unable to use it is “they didn’t like the weight of the system, but the platform can absolutely use it”?
also, there’s currently at least 2 strykers with iron curtain equipped and working. one at aberdeen proving ground in maryland and the other at redstone arsenal in alabama. so, i was slightly wrong, it’s not the iron fist, but the iron curtain.