Only the Sep v3 does
Increase thickness to 650mm frontal thickness with [REDACTED] internal armor value
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I can’t tell if he’s spewing propaganda intentionally or just an idiot.
It’s damn clear that if they killed the vehicle, they’d be posting the unwavering evidence it everywhere.
Israel also announces the deaths of all its servicemen. Very few IDF tankers have been killed.
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i think both
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Man i already told You they arent u have proof from the same US document that has been used to “prove” the Abrams has DU hull
Unrelated but the Sep also has lws so uh
Honestly i don’t think we have to believe sartt at this point, who claims a vent it’s an aps insert without a single bit of proof?
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Lws My beloved
No, that kinda stuff isn’t in-game
So would be trading armor for mobility
That’s the issue. The devs didn’t use enough information when modeling the Abrams which lead to missing/not fully implemented crucial features/armor . It’s pretty evident with the countless bug reports made on the Abrams.
It’s not like the sources presented were released recently. These sources existed long before the abrams were implemented. The Devs didn’t spend enough time researching.
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Bro, no… a part of me dies everytime I see someone say The Merkava can’t fight kinetic rounds. It’s very much capable of withstanding APFSDS that’s fired from tanks used by neighboring countries.
No tank will survive that, this proves nothing.
Eats them for breakfast unless they’re fired in very specific weakspots.
Alright so you’re clearly trolling ain’t ya. The engine doesn’t even weigh that much my guy, and the Tank design is supers for what it is. It’s an armored fortress, and as you said it renowned for its amazing survivability. To say it can’t withstand kinetic threats is absurd.
And on top of all of this, this topic is about the Abrams, not the Merkava…
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Welp according to bug report (that got accept) . Abrams turret ring should be able to resist against auto cannon like 25-30mm and Some big caliber AP, APHE should get stuck on the turret ring armor gap due to how small it is irl (volumetric).
Also due to how map and objective in this game are arrange. Shooting weakspot and such are very common. Not to mention AB and RB ground vehicles can aim and shoot directly from cannon barral not from the aiming sight like irl.
Mantlet are also nerf (same as many other MBTs)
tell me sth about this but i dont think the ufp and roof armor are only ~4cm thick cuz that is basically dead sentence if u throw a few grenade on top of a tank
unlike leo/leclerce/chally which have spall liner i think the thickness should be greater
It’s a difference in doctrine really, Merkava isn’t going to be moving around too much but an Abrams is expected to be able to be deployed across the world and fight almost anywhere
Normal hand grenade wouldn’t do much against roof armor. Unless it was AT-grenade.
Sure it is vulnurable against howitzer with big caliber HE round. But that is the same for most MBTs.
Most MBTs model in game also missing turret basket and interior module inside that could potential help catching spall like Soviet T-72s/64s/80s auto-loader module does.
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Or, just give a variant of the later M1s (M1A1 HC/add the HA, or the M1A2s) the DU hull armor.
The problem with removing the Governor is it did consistent damage to the drivetrain, and also has a chance to injure the crew when stopping/going over rough terrain. Not that going 60mph wouldn’t be nice- but realistically it isn’t possible over a long or for rough terrain over a short term.
Well the game isn’t exactly long term so it wouldn’t matter if they modeled the wear or not
Wt crew also very durable, maybe have elbow and knee pads as crew skill?
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The main fix the Abrams needs is for the turret ring to be shortened. Otherwise, it is largely fine, aside from a few minor fixes.
No, the current M1’s do NOT get DU hulls.
Existing =/= easy to find.
Search terminology is hard enough to think of when using Internet search engines let alone Archive search engines. Then you have to make sure you don’t download anything classified/restricted let alone use it.
At some point you have to stop researching and act on the information found.
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Again that’s the point. This isn’t like small inconsequential errors, they are major ones that heavily impact the performance of a vehicle. It takes effort and time. if Gaijin is not willing to do that, especially for modern vehicles, then it shouldn’t even be added.
This is why many are disappointed on how the Abrams were implemented. The issue is that new vehicles, mechanics, maps, etc have a very short deadline making it very hard to allocate time to do the proper research.
Many would rather wait an extra patch than to have a half baked vehicle at launch and wait an extra year (or more) to get it fixed.
Community Suggestions need to taken advantage of and expanded upon. There’s a lot of people willing to gather information on a certain vehicle. Screenshots and such don’t need to be provided but a general description along with a citation would suffice. it would at least point the developers in a certain direction.
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