The F-15E does have worse turn performance, but its got a heavier and more consistent CAS loadout than anything not russian. It’s CAS loadout is very strong, and I agree (I have the 15i) its flight performance is definitely subpar and nowhere near the other current 13.0 jets in air RB. However, the sheer amount of different types of bombs AGMs and pretty much anything in between makes me think that it should sit at 13.0
I mean options of bombs doesnt make it that good, especially given that none of its weapons are particularly competitive
if it got GPS+laser guided bombs without limited drop speed I would definitely say it should be 13.0 but you get 6 mavs which are not particularly good at that br, and then you get a choice of SDB to try give your mavs a chance to not be intercepted or gbu 12 to try and get a kill or two with them, neither of which are particularly effective because trying to use the gbu makes you extremely vulnerable because you need to lase for the entire flight time of the bomb while the sdb travels very slowly and has a tiny warhead so it is only effective as a distraction for AA
Again true, and paired with definitely not superb flight performance characteristics I understand why you may think that it’s annoying, especially how pretty much the only thing the F-15E has going for it’s protection is speed (which is nullified by bomb release speed), it may not be the best jet to play. However moving it to 13.0 wouldn’t stop it from seeing pantsirs, you still see plenty of those at 12.7. My opinion is that it’s cas loadout is extensive and more than superior to every current 12.7 and so there is really no reason to keep it there.
Pantsir is very good. It is the best SAM in the game, it can intercept all your missiles and destroy you at a distance of 18 km.
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I’ve had no issues dealing with them recently, hell when I spawn in the JAS39C I am often able to gun them down. They are definitely the best SPAA, but far from invincible
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honestly currently id rather fly f16c for cas just do that that turn performance, you sacrifice the sdbs to be able to safely operate like 3km closer where the incredibly bad speed of mavs feels like less of an issue
Whats wrong with it being the best? there will always be a best, why not the F-15E?
On the contrary, I would suggest lowering the BR for the F-15E to 12.0, so that it would at least sometimes hit 11.0 and could use its 6 Mavericks.
Whats wrong is that its miles better than any other 12.7.
nah, its air to air kit with its speed is too good in ground to drop it below 12.7
I don’t even think I should write a proper reply to this question… Anyway having the F-15E at 13.0 would allow skilled US players who have both air and ground parts of the TT to avoid the 11.7 M1A1 Clickbait spam.
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dude, just bring a 13.0 if you don’t want to see 11.7 tanks. Don’t move the F-15E up.
I get that but right now id prefer to play with clickbait spam over fighting kh38mt spam every match
US don’t have any 13.0 Ground RB vehicles ( I think )
they dont
that comment was mostly a joke, but the F-15E speed paired with its decent missile kit, radar/ RWR set and sheer quantity of its CAS loadout means that I think it can easily be a 13.0
As an option, remove Pantsir from the game and give all top CAS equal chances. I think that many players will forget about the unrealistic KH-38MT. And then it will be possible to raise the F-15 to 13.0, yes, it will of course be more difficult for it with the Su-30 and its R-77-1, but I think that it will be a very fair BR.
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Come on, I’m sure that on 11.0 many will learn to play against him just like they learned to play against Pantsir and KH-38MT, I’m sure Skill decides.
Or move the Pantsir up. That works too. I’m still eyeing the KH-38MT Might not Exist thread on the forums and there’s no credible proof of its existance (STILL). However, the F-15E should not sit at the same battle rating as something like a Mirage 2000 or J-11
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yeah im still on the fence about that, due to its inability to defend itself, and the pretty bad CAS loadout
if it gets better CAS stuff though it absolutely should be 13.0
or even any sort of effective secondary CAS weapon because firing your 6 mavs from the 10km is you have to keep away will probably only get a kill or two and that is your only decent offensive CAS option and costs a stupid amount to spawn