Why is the ZTZ96 at 9.3?

Shouldn’t it be at 9.7 lol

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Why? lol

ZTZ96 series tanks are a copy the T-72 MBT sharing many similarities in design, firepower, mobility, and protection features, although with notable differences in the turret and hull design. It’s the Chinese equivalent of the T-72M1 in the German, Italian, and Swedish tech tree and the T-72A in the Russian.

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ZTZ96 does have a much better round than the T-72A.

And iirc a larger LFP and worse side armor.

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But better hull down and frontal protection from ERA

it doesn’t have ERA, the glacis is generally worse than T-72 with the add-on plate, the turret cheeks peak at 390 against long rod KE vs 500 - 600+ on the T-72A and the protection coverage is also worse (bigger and more obvious mantlet, football field LFP and there’s the upper lip of the UFP which has no composite protection)

essentially the Type 96 trades protection for a much better shell, it’s much closer to the T-72A than 64B.

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Not really, easy to pen the cheeks with DM33s

DM33 is kinda a top-ish tier round, especially from the 120mm.

I doubt he’s talking about 120mm dm33. 105 dm33 is found everywhere at that br.

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Still a pretty powerful round.

and?

405mm of pen…

3BM42 ‘mango’ has 462…

That’s a strong round, no crap it’s gonna pen a basic T-72 turret.

The 105mm on Leopard 1s, not the 120s.
Most APFSDS pens the ZTZ96 cheeks without much issue

The Strv 105 (BR 9.3) has 430mm of pen (Long rod 10.5cm slpprj m/90c)

The Strv 105 at its thickest have only 150-ish MM of armor in the mantlet and nothing else.

The ZTZ-96 (Standard early BR 9.3) has 466mm of pen (Long rod 12.5cm Type 1985 APFSDS)

The best armor on the ZTZ 96 is 220mm on the turret, and a high angled 100mm on the hull.

It seems relatively balanced, if not a bit on the strong side.

Everything is kinda a glass cannon in this BR range.

Yeah, probably the best balanced BR imo, the T-64A is the closest thing to a tank that can absorb shells quite often, but that have its own issues in terms of mobility and gunhandling at 9.3.

Don`t have the ZTZ96 myself, but have no issues killing it frontally with a 105mm.
Think it have no thermals, bad reverse and kinda shit optics so pretty balanced at 9.3 id say.
The MBT-70 probably stuggles with it though with the BB gun it carries.

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Armor can stop 105 DM23 in it’s main areas (yes not everywhere but that’s how it is with a lot of tanks; these things are known as “weakspots”) and shoots a round that has 466mm pen at 0° but most importantly 269mm at 60°

And I mean doesn’t feel off that the ZTZ96A’s (the next tank) is quite literally the same tank with addon armor (pretty much the exact same weakspots) and a more powerful engine w/ worse gun depression and elevation but again shooting the exact same round at one whole BR increase (10.3)

It’s a pretty comparable tank the the T-64B which is a 9.7 vehicle

The T-64B has MUCH more armor.
According to you playercard you don`t even have the ZTZ96 OR the T-64B

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And slower
And overall worse armor overall with a huge LFP

Even the UFP armor is similar, 370 to 380 on the T-72 while it’s 380 to 385 on the ZTZ96

I didn’t say it had the same armor I said it was comparable (fun fact there are vehicles in game that are at a higher BR than the T-64B that have less armor)

And yes I don’t have them but I can do this thing called make an observation