Why is the T-80U-E1 still at 11.7?

T80 series > T72 series. One often overlooked aspect on the UE1 is the 40 deg/sec horizontal traverse. Most T-series have those horrible turret drives with ~20 deg/sec horizontal traverse and ~4 deg/sec elevation. Exceptions being the T72B3 and the T80BVM.

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It’s a better T-80U (P2W) at the same BR as the T-80U but you want it to move down? If anything it should stay at 11.7 being a more modern model and the base T-80U can lose it’s thermals, 3BM46 and go to 11.0 to make a line-up with the T-90A or something.

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It shouldn’t be 11.7 so new players don’t face RFL EF E CAS

What??? I think you should rethink how premiums work

Perhaps it’s that 12.7 CAS should be uptiered to 13.0 or something. Sorry I was in a rush.

But still new players with premium shouldn’t face top tier CAS.

For sure yeah I agree with that. I think that is more of a problem where ground rb needs br decompression

And assuming this is changed, the premium 11.7 tanks (instead of 12.0, the tech tree tanks) can shield newbies from top tier CAS. In fact I think that’s one of reasons Fuji is loved so much, other than its vehicle performance

Bad take, the premium is even better than the TT one. In fact they should replaced the TT one with this and made the Swedish demonstrator variant (the one in the TT) should have been premium

That’s a you issue

I wouldn’t be opposed to it.
11.7 would be a much better BR to play if 12.7 was moved up to 13.0.

What are u on t72a cant take a dm23 to the ufp t80 can take it with no issue

Absolutely not

Why not? The main production run of Soviet T-80U’s did not have thermals. It’d go well at 11.0 beside the T-90A and you can basically copy and paste a T-80UM into 11.7 that isn’t outright worse than the premium UE.

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But irl it has thermals

People don’t talk about other countries’ tanks anymore, they probably don’t need to.

All the friends in the game act as bait for Russian and Chinese tanks.

In the German tree, they play with tanks like the T90A, which was produced in 2004 and has a penetration capacity of 580 and cannot be penetrated, in the battles that the Leopard A4 (1985-92) is included in.

The funny thing is that no one who plays with the Leopard A4 says there is an injustice here. They continue to play like animals.

I can’t stand this disgrace anymore.

AND IF I HAVE FRIENDS WHO CAN USE THEIR LITTLE MIND, PLEASE DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN SIMULATION WARS WITH THIS BRAIN AND BE FEEDED BY THIS CIRCUS.

Bait used to be belivable

much worse then that

the solution is to not play this tank range at all.

boycott

i did have thermal, low resolution avaga-2 384x288
tho the T-80B prototype does not have thermal at all yet they get gen 2 ingame for some reason

Almost a universal issue. Actually, just a Universal issue. Even the 2A7 and 122B+ have this problem. All you have to aim for is the Cannon Breech area and that takes out Gunner Commander Barrel and Breech. Yes the T-80U-E1 may be more susceptible then the 2A7/122B+ is, it is AS susceptible as things like the M1A2, Type 90s, 2A5, Chally 2, Leclerc, and Ariete, all which sit at the same BR as this thing. And the T-80UE-1 definitely outclasses these vehicles in certain areas (M1A2 and Type 90s and Leclerc and Ariete in armor, 2A5 and Chally in speed from what I have seen in games). SO it sits fine where it is right now.

I believe the T-80-UE1 should be equipped with the 3BM60 and faster high-low machines, and remain in the 11.7 BR (just like the M1A1 HC “Click-Bait”). Even though its armor isn’t great, it has good mobility.