I wouldn’t be opposed to it.
11.7 would be a much better BR to play if 12.7 was moved up to 13.0.
What are u on t72a cant take a dm23 to the ufp t80 can take it with no issue
Absolutely not
Why not? The main production run of Soviet T-80U’s did not have thermals. It’d go well at 11.0 beside the T-90A and you can basically copy and paste a T-80UM into 11.7 that isn’t outright worse than the premium UE.
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But irl it has thermals
People don’t talk about other countries’ tanks anymore, they probably don’t need to.
All the friends in the game act as bait for Russian and Chinese tanks.
In the German tree, they play with tanks like the T90A, which was produced in 2004 and has a penetration capacity of 580 and cannot be penetrated, in the battles that the Leopard A4 (1985-92) is included in.
The funny thing is that no one who plays with the Leopard A4 says there is an injustice here. They continue to play like animals.
I can’t stand this disgrace anymore.
AND IF I HAVE FRIENDS WHO CAN USE THEIR LITTLE MIND, PLEASE DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN SIMULATION WARS WITH THIS BRAIN AND BE FEEDED BY THIS CIRCUS.
Bait used to be belivable
much worse then that
the solution is to not play this tank range at all.
boycott
i did have thermal, low resolution avaga-2 384x288
tho the T-80B prototype does not have thermal at all yet they get gen 2 ingame for some reason
Almost a universal issue. Actually, just a Universal issue. Even the 2A7 and 122B+ have this problem. All you have to aim for is the Cannon Breech area and that takes out Gunner Commander Barrel and Breech. Yes the T-80U-E1 may be more susceptible then the 2A7/122B+ is, it is AS susceptible as things like the M1A2, Type 90s, 2A5, Chally 2, Leclerc, and Ariete, all which sit at the same BR as this thing. And the T-80UE-1 definitely outclasses these vehicles in certain areas (M1A2 and Type 90s and Leclerc and Ariete in armor, 2A5 and Chally in speed from what I have seen in games). SO it sits fine where it is right now.
I believe the T-80-UE1 should be equipped with the 3BM60 and faster high-low machines, and remain in the 11.7 BR (just like the M1A1 HC “Click-Bait”). Even though its armor isn’t great, it has good mobility.
The majority of Soviet produced T-80U’s didn’t, it was only a small batch with Agava-2 iirc.
It’s better than the Clickbait’s. Gets similar mobility with better armor, only on-paper negatives are pen and reload rate. There is no reason for it to get 3BM60, although 3BM60 won’t affect the way the tank plays by much.
You forgot about reverse speed gun depression and vertical aiming speed.
CB and HC definitely need to go to 12.0.
The TT T-80U is modeled after the swedish trials T-80U (same one as the swedish squad vic). It does use Agava and only has Gen 1 thermals
UE-1 is straight up better because it uses the Plisa Thermals which uses iirc french thermals in that system. It’s modeled as Gen 2 in game
If those go, the T-80U-E1 should go. It has the same forward mobility with better armor and a much smaller profile. The HC and U-E1 are realistically equals, and therefore the BRs should be treated as such.
It’s still much worse than BVM at 12.0.
Meanwhile CB, HC and M1A2 are the same thing as SEP but with worse thermals, but sit at a lower BR.
the smal batch is enough for gaijin to put them in
yet abrums DU hull but im not gonna argue on that(for now)
man i wish they buff the thermal on ADATS to gen 2 cuz FLIR from the apache has much higher res than normal tank FLIR, should be close to gen 3 even
They also lack the additional armor packages that are a big advantage for the SEP against missiles and other HEAT/HE based threats.
Making them, in turn, much worse than the SEP at 12.0. And that is ignoring the V2 and its ARAT tiles. I think the T-80U-E1 and the HC/A2 are all viable and perfectly balanced at 11.7. Plus, in the long run the amount of full downtiers at 11.7 is so minimal that it doesn’t even really matter.