Why is the Stormer HVM so bad?

Potentially, yeah, it could be either, Im just wondering if they would ever consider adding it for only one SAM system though, thats all.

We have like 2 sources stating it has automatic aiming, but sadly nothing to be done with it yet

Maybe stormer hvm could be the first one to receive it, or they would implement it for all which would take more time as they would have to figure which sams have lead indicator - or if automatic engagement is a ground for lead indicator…

Anyway, i guess there is only one way to find out which is trying. If you find any useful documents, try to archive them somewhere and ill do the same.

@Gunjob as ukrainian military personnel are operating the stormer hvm, would their opinion be considered an “expert opinion” if they were to talk about the capabilities of said system? Would their opinion be helpful in a suggestion/bug report?

I cant send here Pdf :/ but i have 2
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All i have, and also enough to have, as they are 2 manufacturer brochures, so 2 primary sources
Oh yea, also STAIRSC is here, im blind hehe

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They have their fax listed. I wonder if they would answer any questions we might have…

Well, if you are brave enough then you can contact them simply by mail. They might answear whatever you want from them, but they are not obligated to do so
ALSO IF YOU WRITE DO NOT TELL YOU ARE DOING IT FOR WAR THUNDER
that is a automatic red flag

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If you mean email, i tried to contact raytheon earlier but since my email is as inconvincing as my Gaijin name i didn’t get any good results lol.
If by mail, i could try this.

Agreed

Well, im still waiting for a reply from BAE on my email, hehe

I remember once someone asked on Thales Defence’s Twitter about the thermal imager that the Stormer HVM uses.

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How long have you been waiting for?

2 months (yea i know they ignored me)

Yes, it was used in a bug report.

Alright. Twitter seems to be a possible way of contacting them too. Do we need to know anything else other than the missile max speed and the existence of lead indicator? If they reply positively without supplying documents, is that considered a primary source anyway or just expert opinion?

Classified, Mach 3+ as brochure

There is none as the computer automaticly leads the missile for the crew, all the gunner does is lock the target and fire, computer does the rest

Alright. I had heard something about a lead indicator in itself. I guess that was not true then. We should have a lead indicator anyway if they are not ready to implement automatic lead.

Not like they are not ready, they need the footage of the computer doing it, like a footage of the station where gunner fires and does not touch anything else (as you can imagine, hard to get)

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So the primary sources would not be enough if fully automatic engagement is mentioned? (primary as in sense of documents from manufacturer)

That is becasue the sources say High degree of automation provides a fire and forget system capability and automatic target tracking and engagment providing fire and forget capability.
The devs are not sure what that means (yes a excuse)