Why is the Pzh2000 the same BR as the PLZ05?

I guess it is time for another round of review bombing…

Proof?

Barracuda MCS; going to be added to a lot of vehicles eventually, and reduces its thermal signature to nil-near-none.

Would be nice

Should be around a 6 second, yes, saving grace is ammo count and storage

Bkan 1C is a whole bracket lower dawg, but only carries 14 rounds, that can be dispensed within a solid minute of firing.

My question is why are modern artillery pieces with LRF at the same BR as tanks built in the late 1940s

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And Sholef only 0.4 BR below them, with none of what make it special IRL, no LRF, no thermals, no stabilizer, no unique shells, targeting speed that is literally around 20% of it’s real one, less gun deprssion than real life, wrong engine + transmition + speed, weight is like 10 ton heavier than real life and only 30% of it’s real life armor. Yeah, German mains, I think your complaints are pathetic now. PLZ05 has to be 8.0 for sure, but before that I want the Turm III at 9.0 as it deserves and the VK 3002 M at 5.7 as justice determines.

I’ve seen you talk about this a lot of times, have you done a very comprehensive bug report? or you just put clowns at the end of your sentences

If so, post the link, provide it with proof and have it pushed by the community

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They accepted all the features im refering to and yet they are missing
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/1NIIZ4zQBvYN
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/cwQt9nZNHK8n
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/5u59n2OegjqF
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/3UQ23LY5NGHb

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if they accepted the best solution is patience and playing something else while waiting.

They always do this, “accepted as suggestion” and gets forgotten

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I understand but I’m going to play devil’s advocate.
The update was released far too quickly, and many fixes are arriving in trickles.
I don’t think they can ignore all the information you gave them.
I hope

It is 100% unfinished, before fixed it, there is no need to comparing with other vehicles.

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They arent. The only ones that are undertiered are maybe the PLZ05, but the others are not. They are all extremely thin-skinned, most of them dying to .50cals, have either long reload (All but Bkan), or limited traverse (Bkan). Yeah, they can kill most anything, but those things can easily kill them in return.

I’m so disappointed it has the m107 shells. Just add the L15A1 and the DM series. Just what is the driving force behind these decisions? Can’t have shit in WT

Where would you put them ?

modern artillery with LRF would be at 9.3 if I could pick.

Can you elaborate on how/why that would be balanced ?

I’d agree if they got drones and shells didn’t de-render when going high (indirect fire) But probably like 8.0 and above. It’s ridiculous lot of them face WW2 equipment. Type 99 8.0, doesn’t differ from something like t-54 or leopard 1. LRF arty to 8.3 and VIDAR to 8.7 for high grade thermals.

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facing ww2 & early cold war kit in something that will one shot anything at any range (provided you don’t suck) that zeroes your range in for you is brutally unfair.

facing chieftains, lat leo 1s and early T72 would balance it out as you cant abuse vehicles that cant counter you at close range.

What would be the selling point of VIDAR at 9.3 when compared to 1A5 or T-72A ?
Gen2 thermals and what else ?

In my opinion modern SPHs at 9.3 would be incredibly niche picks and honestly underpowered. They are solid at the moment as they are facing unstabilized tanks with no LRF.

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Can we remove that weird leopard nerf that made it so it can’t fire over its rear sides to make it more “realistic”

This is another example of them picking and choosing when to do things for realism or when to do it for balance.

Be consistent.

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