Why is the Pzh2000 the same BR as the PLZ05?

They always do this, “accepted as suggestion” and gets forgotten

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I understand but I’m going to play devil’s advocate.
The update was released far too quickly, and many fixes are arriving in trickles.
I don’t think they can ignore all the information you gave them.
I hope

It is 100% unfinished, before fixed it, there is no need to comparing with other vehicles.

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No worries, I did not forget the Sturmpanzer II as well as other vehicles with high caliber guns like Ho-Ro, Spj fm/43-44, KV-2. But the ones that I mentioned just seem very undertiered in their current state.

They arent. The only ones that are undertiered are maybe the PLZ05, but the others are not. They are all extremely thin-skinned, most of them dying to .50cals, have either long reload (All but Bkan), or limited traverse (Bkan). Yeah, they can kill most anything, but those things can easily kill them in return.

I’m so disappointed it has the m107 shells. Just add the L15A1 and the DM series. Just what is the driving force behind these decisions? Can’t have shit in WT

Where would you put them ?

modern artillery with LRF would be at 9.3 if I could pick.

Can you elaborate on how/why that would be balanced ?

I’d agree if they got drones and shells didn’t de-render when going high (indirect fire) But probably like 8.0 and above. It’s ridiculous lot of them face WW2 equipment. Type 99 8.0, doesn’t differ from something like t-54 or leopard 1. LRF arty to 8.3 and VIDAR to 8.7 for high grade thermals.

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facing ww2 & early cold war kit in something that will one shot anything at any range (provided you don’t suck) that zeroes your range in for you is brutally unfair.

facing chieftains, lat leo 1s and early T72 would balance it out as you cant abuse vehicles that cant counter you at close range.

What would be the selling point of VIDAR at 9.3 when compared to 1A5 or T-72A ?
Gen2 thermals and what else ?

In my opinion modern SPHs at 9.3 would be incredibly niche picks and honestly underpowered. They are solid at the moment as they are facing unstabilized tanks with no LRF.

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Can we remove that weird leopard nerf that made it so it can’t fire over its rear sides to make it more “realistic”

This is another example of them picking and choosing when to do things for realism or when to do it for balance.

Be consistent.

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The crew is packed together so any well aimed rouns will either kill 2/3 crew or hit the ammo.

Nobody seems to understand how bad the HEVT of the Pzh2000 is when compared to the Type99 or PLZ05.

I will NEVER stop hating a tank that so retarded.

French 8.7s are fine without stabilizers and they don’t have a guaranteed 1 shot round.

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Plz05 is acutally 50cal resistant. It has 30/25/20mm armor thats angled meanwhile thr pzh 2000 has 30/10/10mm flat sides meaning its easily killed by 50cal

You should get it bro once you have it, you will stop hating it, only people who don’t have it will say such thing lol

They aren’t fine, especially MBTs, as they are forced into a certain playstyle because they don’t have a stabilizer. Also, they actually have working gun handling and gun depression while also easily out-reloading VIDAR after a couple of shots. They have much more armor as well.

As for shells, HE will overpressure but you’ll have to aim much more carefully than with a 105mm dart for very similar results. Dart is much more versatile and is definitely a better pick out of the two.

So what are you left with ?
You want to put VIDAR at 8.7 where stabilization/dart/LRF combo is often seen, so it’s only advantage would be thermals and a good reload for first two shots, all the while having crippling downsides. Doesn’t really look balanced to me.

German 8.7 JaPz would be a much better pick at the same BR, I really think you’re overvaluing VIDAR by a lot.

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Ya I think vidar should remain where it is… and pzh2000 should go down in br

Why should PZH go down to 7.3 ?
It significantly better than Type 99.

Speaking of Type 99, is there any reason why Pzh doesn’t get L15A2? It’s the same rifle isn’t it?

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