Why is the PUMA VTJF 11.0?

[Vinneh_Thunder-psn]

The PUMA VTJF is a German light tank placed at 11.0, why in all worlds would this thing be 11.0, the Bozer’s Like the CRV Block 2 or the New “sWaTrgInf” share the same gun and missiles as the PUMA, and are still at a lower BR. I have been thinking for hours about why the PUMA is at such a high BR where it faces the new BMPT which is an absolutely indestructible demon. So move the PUMA to 9.7 and the PUMA VJTF to 10.0 or 10.3,
The reason for 9.7 is because that where all the 30mm BushMaster IFV’s sit, EFV, CV9030 FIN, M1296 - you name it. And the reason for 10.0 or 10.3 is where 30mm BushMasters with Spike missiles sit, CRV Block 2, sWaTrgInf, Vilkas, etc.

[Circleati]

@spooder_man343-psn

10.0 or 10.3 is where 30mm BushMasters with Spike missiles sit,

theyre all 10.7 to 11.0 though?

and arguably the boxer crv is more on par with the 11.0 ones like the kf41

to be clear I dont think spike vehicles should necessarily be as high as they are but the Puma VJTF isn’t really worse off than any other spike vehicle (apart from the freccias probably)

@spooder_man343-psn

Please little devs read my crap.

then go make a message in the BR changes thread

[Normandy_Corsair]

gaijin heavily overtiers spike vehicles

[BlokPlaysGames]

Spikes, if modeled properly, would absolutely deserve 11.0, maybe even higher. Same with Bushmasters to be honest. Sometimes feels like I’m throwing twigs by hand with how crappy they are.

[我完全不会讲中文]

Because any tank that has “SPIKES” as in GJNs very unfavourable implementation of it gets massively overtiered.

The PUMA is hit worst, because it was originally undertiered and then got massively overcorrected. While also being nerfed to the point something with Stanag 6 can now be killed by 50cals.

[_Renzo]

@spooder_man343-psn

The reason for 9.7 is because that where all the 30mm BushMaster IFV’s sit, EFV, CV9030 FIN, M1296 - you name it.

Implying that stuff like the EFV, CV9030 and M1296 is equal to the Puma is wild lmao.

[Beeschurger]

@spooder_man343-psn

The reason for 9.7 is because that where all the 30mm BushMaster IFV’s sit, EFV, CV9030 FIN, M1296 - you name it.

All quiet on the frontal lobe it seems.

[Vinneh_Thunder-psn]

The PUMA with ONLY 30mm

[Vinneh_Thunder-psn]

You think im wrong?? Shouldnt a 30mm BushMaster IFV be 9.7, seems like your are one of the greedy russians eh?

[Vinneh_Thunder-psn]

Well guess what Mr smartpants, they removed my acces to post in any suggestions tab 🫩

[TheMightySardine]

PUMA doesnt use Bushmaster tho

[MiGoon_Fox-3]

[Beeschurger]

@spooder_man343-psn

seems like your are one of the greedy russians eh?

Greedy russian maining germany?

[_Renzo]

Even the Puma with no spikes is considerably better than the EFT, CV9030 and M1296 lol.

[Pheonix_RX01]

EFV and CV9030 are both 9.3 lol

[_Renzo]

Fair enough. However I think that all the improvements that the Puma has over these 2 warrants more than a 0.3 BR increase.

[我完全不会讲中文]

The PUMA with no spikes is literal trash. Has been for a long time. It’s not the same vehicle they originally introduced.

It has armor so bad, that it can be 50cal’d in some areas.

It’s big as hell, as in absolutely gigantic. Making it very obvious.

Huge MUSS cone that doesn’t actually work, but allows it to be easily overpressured.

Cannon overheats super fast.

Pitiful damage all around.

Any minor hit basically instantly disables it.

[_Renzo]

@我完全不会讲中文

The PUMA with no spikes is literal trash. Has been for a long time. It’s not the same vehicle they originally introduced.

No matter how trash it is, it’s still far far better than the CV9030 and EFV, and it deserves more than a 0.3 BR difference.

[Pheonix_RX01]

Then the badger at 9.0 lol

[G3ntl3man95]

for this is 11.0 gaijin no want to buff it 0.7 kd is so bad… completly destroyed puma nerfed to much the armor…

but this okay gaijin put this in lower br than puma… yeah now put higher and higher br but remain competitive russian mains use bmpt in toptier and is fair competitive…