Why is the Object 279 still 9.0

In what is apparently an uncommon opinion, it’s just fine where it is now. No longer the brain dead nuke printer it was on release, nor completely obsolete either. To run down it’s characteristics quickly:

Armor can and will bounce most APDS, unless exceptionally well aimed. This is by far the most common round type at 8.3 and below, so it retain’s it’s monstrous advantage when downtiered. It can also bounce some weaker first gen darts too, if not precisely aimed. It’s vulnerable to HEAT rounds, but people rarely main them, meaning you’ll still have the advantage on the first shot unless they have time to prepare.

Firepower is still great. Outside of the Chieftain Mk 10 and the copy paste T-72s, it really doesn’t run into anything that can bounce it’s round reliably. And since it has incredible post pen damage, you barely need to aim at targets. Most enemies can be center massed and oneshot, giving you a sizable reaction time advantage (Considering they need to aim their shots relatively carefully to ensure penetration/decent damage).

The reload is longer than average, but not cripplingly so like on the T-10M, so it’s not impossible to play around. You also get a coaxial 14.5mm gun like the T-10M, an underrated advantage that allows you to dispatch lightly armored tanks and track enemies even if your commander is dead. It’s also a near ballistic match to the main gun, helping you line up shots at medium ranges faster.

Mobility is also rock solid. Not incredible, but for a heavy tank it’s exceptionally reactive and quick to accelerate. Plus, actual reverse gears, a rarity for Soviet tanks at the tier. Not it’s strongest point, but not much of a downside either.

This combo makes it a monster on urban maps, especially in downtiers, where it can brawl aggressively and take advantage of that reaction time advatange to oneshot tanks who are still trying to line up a shot. Considering it’s comparative rarity, there’s still a lot of players who have no idea how to fight it or where to shoot. Generally, if I see a 279 in good matchmaking, I make it my mission to dispatch him, since if I don’t they often run over my team. The only other tank that gets this reaction out of me is a KV-1B/E in good matchmaking, which I think is telling. This happens much less than it used to, thankfully, but it’s still problematic when the stars align.

They’re far weaker in uptiers and on larger maps, but that’s hardly a mark against the tank. You have lineups for a reason, if you get bad matchmaking just spawn something else instead. Trying to balance the tank around that is like trying to balance a Nashorn that you insist on spawning in brawling maps.

Ultimately, like almost every other problematically balanced vehicle, it needs decompression.

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No one doubts it

Will do so later.

You don’t think there’s a reason people use this op tank to grind events?

I nonpenned it with DM23 5 times in row and after checking every single impact in protection analysis later they all should have penned but didn’t.

Vehicle and player stats shouls always be judged independently from each other.

If someone has bad KD in every vehicle except for one there might be reason for it other than their skill increasing.

Nuke came to game way after the 279.

“Fine” now lol. By far the best 9.0 and will be even stronger after the BR changes.

No I also want the Tiger 2H, KV-1C, KV-1E (and KV-1B) and others nerfed despite owning and playing them. Playing multiple nations makes you face those tanks you play to realize how strong they can be and helps you to be less biased.

If the KV-1B/E only got downtiers like the 279 it would be stronger and it only gets balanced when it fights other op tanks like the Pz4, M4A2, T14. At least it has one weakness in the form of its weak gun. The 279 has no major weaknesses.

Do you think people wouldnt use an op tank when there wasnt an event?

And did you show that? No.

The kve/b can be argued due to their armor. But the tiger 2 and kv1c? How? Please dont tell me you want the tiger 2 at like 7.3 or something.

comes off pretty insecure

I got his pulled up rn. Just go in game and search his username.
Top 2 most played tanks with some odd stats.

He also has an odd choice of heavies he thinks are op.
For the tiger 2h and kv1c, here are his stats



Strange he didnt mention these as his main examples

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7.0

You know you can still check the stats ingame?

Played them a lot when I was a noob.

Also you don’t understand how to read stats properly. One person having good stats in one vehicle isn’t the same as thousands of people having a good KD in the 279.

They aren’t that far off in terms of average KD and unlike the 279 there are very few people that actually play the IS-4M/T32E1 a lot.

Going by my stats the T-34(1940) is the strongest tank in the game with the SU-122 being a close second.

279 is resistant to most autocannon rounds across the front 270 degrees of its hull. The chieftan hull is vulnerable across a huge section of its hull.

Chieftan has better numerical armor, but a lot of the early apfsds rounds have significantly better flat pen than sloped, so the 279s sloped armor counts for a LOT more than the flatter chieftan armor. Chieftan breach is also FAR easier to destroy due to the armor shot trapping a huge area of the front. CE the chieftan wins, KE the 279 does. Unfortunately, KE is more common at those brs.

Imo, APHE>APFSDS. Too many go-karts will cause darts to overpen where even the kinetic component of a APHE will do more damage.

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Turret armor of Chieftain Mk10 is ~500.
APFSDS does not have over 550mm of penetration as your post falsely claims.

He never said that. Stop lying Alvis.

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@AverageWehraboo accusing others of lying despite the person’s quote literally there for all to see.
Keep accusing everyone of lying, all you do is prove the WT player base correct.

@AverageWehraboo
Are you Russian? Cause you’re using claims that exclusively Russians use.
Your posts also defend the Object 279 for whatever reason. Is it cause I’m defending the Chieftains?
Keep claiming that everyone are trolls and liars, all you do is prove the WT playerbase correct.
Making the WT playerbase your enemy only emboldens me, as I side with the playerbase.

Oh, you hid your profile… Your posts are nothing but accusations [provocations], and you don’t want people fact-checking your posts.

Where did anyone say this?

I’m German.

Lmao what

Yeah no idea why I called you a troll

@AverageWehraboo
Then stop accusing people that support the German tech tree of evil things.
Your posts are just being provocative for no reason.

???

I am not your enemy. We are not in an in-game battle.
Both of us ideally want balance.
I assume you want to support your nation’s tech trees.
We shouldn’t fight just cause either of us misunderstood something in a post.

You are not Russian, I am not provocative [I get visibly upset if what I type upsets someone else].
So can we get along? Especially when we make mistakes in our posts, or have disagreements.

Turret armor is 500mm in AREAS. nowhere close to that across the whole turret. Turret ring is <300mm and is REALLY tall for a ring. left side when looking at the tank has 400mm on the slope but 250-300mm on the upper portion. The whole area around the breach is 200mm and you can pen it at angles to destroy both the breach and crew very easily.

You don’t need 550mm pen. You need 300 to pen the flat turret ring or the optic/commander area. Guess what most darts have? And lets not mention the ENTIRE ufp.

If you could stop making up things noone has ever said.

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