279 is resistant to most autocannon rounds across the front 270 degrees of its hull. The chieftan hull is vulnerable across a huge section of its hull.
Chieftan has better numerical armor, but a lot of the early apfsds rounds have significantly better flat pen than sloped, so the 279s sloped armor counts for a LOT more than the flatter chieftan armor. Chieftan breach is also FAR easier to destroy due to the armor shot trapping a huge area of the front. CE the chieftan wins, KE the 279 does. Unfortunately, KE is more common at those brs.
Imo, APHE>APFSDS. Too many go-karts will cause darts to overpen where even the kinetic component of a APHE will do more damage.
@AverageWehraboo accusing others of lying despite the person’s quote literally there for all to see.
Keep accusing everyone of lying, all you do is prove the WT player base correct.
@AverageWehraboo
Are you Russian? Cause you’re using claims that exclusively Russians use.
Your posts also defend the Object 279 for whatever reason. Is it cause I’m defending the Chieftains?
Keep claiming that everyone are trolls and liars, all you do is prove the WT playerbase correct.
Making the WT playerbase your enemy only emboldens me, as I side with the playerbase.
Oh, you hid your profile… Your posts are nothing but accusations [provocations], and you don’t want people fact-checking your posts.
I am not your enemy. We are not in an in-game battle.
Both of us ideally want balance.
I assume you want to support your nation’s tech trees.
We shouldn’t fight just cause either of us misunderstood something in a post.
You are not Russian, I am not provocative [I get visibly upset if what I type upsets someone else].
So can we get along? Especially when we make mistakes in our posts, or have disagreements.
Turret armor is 500mm in AREAS. nowhere close to that across the whole turret. Turret ring is <300mm and is REALLY tall for a ring. left side when looking at the tank has 400mm on the slope but 250-300mm on the upper portion. The whole area around the breach is 200mm and you can pen it at angles to destroy both the breach and crew very easily.
You don’t need 550mm pen. You need 300 to pen the flat turret ring or the optic/commander area. Guess what most darts have? And lets not mention the ENTIRE ufp.
I’d say that the USA’s Merkava Mk1 is the best at 9.0 BR. Its also somehow more protected than the Merkava Mk1.B in Israel because it has tracks outside of the front hull armor, and it has a 30mm thick RHA plate behind the transmission, to compare, Israel’s Merkava Mk1.B(same tank but more upgraded) has a 10mm thick RHA plate behind the transmission and no tracks in the front hull. None of the APFSDS shells in 9.0 BR can penetrate the USA’s Merkava Mk1 from the hull’s front.
i think the tiger 2 H rightly deserves 7.0, how is it the same br as the (p)? its only frontal weakspot is literally 80% stronger, while eliminating trapshot weakpoint.
other 6.7 heavies that imo deserve 7.0: t26e5, t34, object 248.
op kv1 variants only need their op stalinium angle pen adjusted and then i think they would be fine.
how the hell does a APHEBC shell achieve better angle performance than HEAT shell again?
object 279 is strange: every time i see it in my matches it achieves 18 kills 0 deaths and its enemy team just stops existing. but that is probably only because of only mostly very experienced players + a strong all rounder vehicle that noobs just dont know how to kill. if it were to become more common, it would not be nearly as effective as casuals would learn how to deal with it.
on the other note, i think the 9.3 t72 is more op for its own rating than the 279, but because its more common people dont panic against it as much.
Fighter tiger 2s with 7.7 tanks already feels incredibly weird. I’m rolling around, fully stabilized with armour good enough to bounce shells from long88 and able to pen them anywhere I look.
I really don’t want to be fighting tiger 2s with my vickers MBT or cent mk10. That’d be peak insanity.
Chief MK10? only if its point blank. Death by AHPE through capula is considered an extremely rare event at least for me, I play this thing entirely camping until I get bombed, I mean why would I’d be driving around with that shitty ass hull right? I do remember one time I got overpressured through the capula was by VIDAR in European province, that’s after I took 3-4 hits and was surprised that I didn’t die by the first shot lol. Capula weakspot is definitely cannot be utilize by the Object 279 with its shitty sight zoom, even less likely if it’s >600m, it’s not somewhere you can reliably hit unless you have LRF, hitting that spot might be slightly easier with T-55AM
T26E5 is fine at 6.7 tbh but T34 is worse than the T29 and the reload really holds it back.
The Object 248 is just worse than the Tiger 2H at everything and even at 6.7 it’s not strong.
The angle pen is somewhat historical and the angle mod being better than HEAT is a statcard problem.
It’s still more versatile than its competition and will always have the upper hand.
Don’t know why you think that when the 279 is better than the T-72A and a lower BR.
Assuming you’re talking about 7.7 UK the tanks should get a major buff to APDS and move up in BR. The Conqueror especially is so weird to use. It’s op against the other 7.7 heavies but total trash against SPGs, light tanks and SPAA.
If it weren’t for the 279 at 9.0 they (and other 8.0/8.3 tanks) could easily move up and get an APDS buff.
All the shells you mentioned can be fully stopped by the transmission & engine, the DM33 can barely damage the crew. Btw I played in realistic battle and I used Merkava Mk1.B, a BMP-2M shoot me with his 30mm gun from like 200 meters in the front hull, penetrated through the engine and killed my last crew member lol