Flares.
Swiss Mirage has AIM-9Es which are significantly worse than Magic 1s.
The 3E is superior to the 3S unless the 3S gets at least AIM-9Js.
@Creastroy
This has nothing to do with compression.
Also 10.7 is decompressed.
Sorry but what? Flares are the biggest issue for the mirage 3s and it fixes that along with an extra radar missile and slightly better low speed handling due to the canards. That with the ability to bring rocket booster with guns makes it superior to the 3c easy. The ability to survive longer trumps the ability to get kills quicker any day as the longer you live the better chance at winning the game you have. Oh, and dont forget the 3c doesnt have rwr so you have to be mindful at all times while at alt, and you have to play at alt as good luck winning against a mig 21 diving on your ass.
The 3S should be given its 9ps and moved to 10.7/11.0 depending on the variant.
Not saying the mirage 3c shouldn’t be moved up.
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The radar missile that’s only useful when enemy players climb high with me.
Even then they are inferior to Magic 1s that my Mirage 3E has.
The Mirage 3E is better than it.
Radar missiles don’t get objectively better than IR missiles until PD radars.
I never mentioned the 3C in any of these contexts.
If your not flying high in a mirage with an rwr and countermeasures your playing it wrong? At this br youll see mig 21s and f8s up high the entire time, having 2 high g missiles is 2 very easy kills if you know what your doing. Its equivalent to the mirage 3e easily… Plus 9es arent even bad if used correctly, spading the mirage 3 wasn’t painful with the 9bs and having spaded the f100 for france i can say its not the worst missile, that goes to the fire streak and red top.
The Mirage 3S is not the enemy team.
You or I flying high does not mean the enemy that you’re reliant on flying high will fly high.
Holy moly dude.
Half of the matches at 10.3 zero enemies climbed because guess what? F-4Cs, F-8Es, and Mig-21s have flown high previously and people are correctly paranoid often enough.
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Guess you havent been playing recenly, ive spaded 3 10.0 jets in the last week. Every match at least 4-5 mig 21s have flown high with r3rs, so no its not zero… i suddenly remember why i had you muted.
No its not lmao ?
Mirage 3 s has canards that help with turns. Has flares, has better radar missiles and has 2 of those radar missiles, can also take boosters without giving up the gun
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Both have flares. The flares are the reason Mirage 3E is 10.7 instead of 10.0.
Both have standard pulse radars.
The radar missiles are not Magic 1 equivalent. Even though I was hoping for them to be so I could lobby for 10.7, but they aren’t so I can’t.
Canards help in instaneous turns below 820kph, above 820kph both have the same airframe G-limit because both are Mirage 3s so you’re not turning instantaneously better until you can drop your speed low enough to not pull max airframe G-limit.
Oh, and canards reduce sustained turn rate.
That matches with my experience. Tons of people climb between 9.7 and 11.7, and it’s very rare to not see anyone climb at all.
ok so giving a mirage flares puts it to 10.7 but giving a mirage more flares than the m10.7 mirage puts it a 10.3 got it
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Its a delta wing bro you arent supposed to get into sustained turns. Only instant turn matters in delta wings since they bleed all their energy in one turn anyway. It reduces the least important performance of the mirage
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More flares? 45 flares is the same as 45 flares. They’re identical.
And giving any plane flares brings up their BR by 0.7 - 1.3.
Instant turn benefit below 820kph is not a notably useful trait in air RB. Maybe air sim, but this isn’t an air sim topic.
The instantaneous turn rate at high speeds that air RB operates on remains identical between the two, because the bottleneck is the airframe G-limit, not the pilot.
And AIM-9Es are not good IR missiles for 10.3 let alone 10.7. There’s a reason the F-5C is called a gun fighter and not an overall fighter.
Flareless Mirage 3 vs Magic 2 (Jaguar IS) and R73 (Su-39, Su-25T, Su-25BM) sounds fun…
Gotta love BR compression!
To be fair though, the Mirage IIIC is a VERY strong 10.0, however it’d be pretty much dead in the water at 10.3. The IIIE is a pretty abysmal 10.7 though, 10.3 would make sense
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my bad bro I thought they were diffrent sorry.
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If you’re having issues with either Mirage 3S or 3E, I can help you alleviate those issues.
Cause both are good at their respective BRs.
he has 2kd with the mirage 3 bro
3E at 10.7 is mediocre at best
3C at 10.0 is great
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3E is well above average at 10.7. It was even decent when F-14As could face it [which is when I spaded mine].
Great energy fighter with good IR missile suppression and ambush potential.
Sure it’s no Sea Vixen, but it doesn’t need to be.
3C I’ll never play again personally. The moment I spaded it is when I retired it permanently. It was fun fragging a couple F-14As with it though.
Everyone has their preferences though.
Great energy fighter ? ITS A GODDAMN DELTA WING
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radar ballistics computer rwr and better weaponry (i think), better engine
3E is just an upgraded version of the 3C