Main issue is it being same br as AMX-32 with 120 gun which is more or less better in every metric. armor mobility and firepower. Gaijin by raising almost all the 7.0-9.3s no matter how bad and leaving 9.0-10.0 as they were created this and many other issues. Either 9.3.-10.3 needs more decompression and amx-32 and 40 be moved up or AMX-32-105 should go down its as simple as that. Instead we get another stupid status quo.
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AMX-40 outputting almost twice the horsepower and having 120 and only being 0.3 br higher is truly gaijin moment of all time.
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another issue is that the amx 105 devblog implied that the amx 32 would have a faster fire rate than the amx 32 but it seems that they didnt adhere to their statements on the devblog.
Unlike the original AMX-32 which veteran French tankers have already had plenty of time to get accustomed to, the AMX-32 (105) comes equipped with, as the name already suggests, a 105 mm main gun unlike the 120 mm cannon found on the existing variant. As a result, tank commanders will be faced with a tradeoff: is it preferable to have more raw stopping power in the form of a larger caliber gun or is a faster rate of fire more important to win a gun duel?
The AMX-32 105 is simply a downgrade: it has worse mobility (like really terrible one) and a worse gun (in all aspects that matter) than the AMX-32 and yet is at the same BR. It makes no sense. The mobility, imho is the main problem. THe only redeeming factor of the AMX-30 series are the 20mm and the mobility. If you lose either one, you essentially have a worse tank than the competition for the same BR. Simple as that, really.
Its pretty silly. Etendard devblog states over 200 cms still 180 in game. AMD 35 sa35 devblog claims its gun can deal with more vehicles than 25 mm tech tree version which also isnt true and claims it sacrifices the reload but its the same. By now im not taking anything written in the devblog for granted and just wait for the vehicle to come into the game.
That’s how the game works, tanks have their pros and cons, what’s your point ?
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My point is that if you only have the cons and not the pros, you need to get down in BR, silly…
AMX-32 105 certainly have it’s pros, it just depends on who you compare it with.
Something like T-64A is miles worse but still share the same BR.
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Type 93- 428mm
OFL 105 F1- 372mm
M774- 386mm
You’re right, it’s closest to M774 than it is to Type 93.
Can’t forget the 7.7 downtiers and in a 1 on 1 the T55 aphe could go right through the amx 32 105 paper thin armor. The amx32 105 is the same gun on the amx 30 so I know that the T55 can just absorb shots to the turret and that the turret is stronger than the hull (like most higher up russian tanks)
While that might be or not (not playing the T64A, I won’t compare with what I don’t know), if you internally compare with other French vehicles, it’s inherently a lot worse for the same BR.
Tanks shouldn’t be balanced by their performance in full downtiers, that thing is only solvable by BR decompression.
AMX 32 can do the same thing to AM-1, just better.
If you manage to miss green areas I think that’s totally a you problem.
You don’t need to play the T-64A, stats are so blatantly worse it’s pretty evident by just glancing at the stat sheet.
Not my problem other French 9.3 and 9.7 MBTs are undertiered. They should go up, AMX-32 105 is fine where it is.
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LOL. You clearly have no idea… Do you even play French vehicles?
Have more than enough idea to see that AMX-32 105 belongs to 9.3.
Wow… OK. I leave you to your delirium. :D
And since you have never played a French vehicle in your life, let alone at higher tiers, I think you should stick to talking about the stuff you actually know and play, like Soviet ones.
Only ones in delirium here are x-nation mains, like yourself.
Tell me something, do you really believe AMX-32 105 should be at 8.7 ?
No, but 9.0 would be a good start. Which would also have the added bonus of giving a 9.0 vehicle in SqB to the French tech tree (even though there is no line up).
Also, I literally play ALL nations, sorry. Just not all at higher tier, because I also have a job and a family.
It needs 9.0 it can seriously play against abrams
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Also just because the map says it pens doesn’t mean it’s going to in game, volumetric and special russian perks effect a lot
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I still think 9.0 is too low. In my opinion AMX-32 105 is the opposition for tanks like L/44, which as we all know, sit at 9.3 as well. They are pretty similar in performance, so I don’t see a valid justification why those two can’t share the same BR.
This is a problem of BR compression, adjusting BRs without decompression will just move the problem from one place to another, and it will go in circles.
And Abrams can play against 11.3 tanks, there’s always two sides to the medal.
I’ve been through ~8.7 bracket multiple times (3 if not including USSR), and let me tell you something, my German/Italian/Swedish tanks had no issues dealing with USSR mediums of that BR.
I believe the map is correct for T-55AM-1 because I’ve tested it out countless times, with various ammunition, and all those medium tanks looked like they had their hull made of literal paper.
I don’t recall getting non-pen on their hulls, ever.
Also, volumetric is present on literally every tank so that’s a moot argument.
Can you tell me what are those perks that affect 8.7 USSR mediums ?